> There are no clean image models. Zero. Using today's model architectures, the problem of using non-expressly-permitted data for training is insurmountable. "

> There are no clean image models. Zero. Using today's model architectures, the problem of using non-expressly-permitted data for training is insurmountable. "This would be hard to do while respecting licenses on creative works" is not an argument for being permitted to ignore those licenses. I don't like copyright, but I strongly believe in everyone following the same rules. If AI companies are finding that copyright is inconvenient: welcome to the club, Open Source developers have been saying that for decades, and others have been saying it for centuries. There shouldn't be a special asymmetric exception for AI training that lets AI ignore licenses while everyone else cannot. By all means remove copyright restrictions for everyone, for all uses. > So if the artists prevail, image generators are donezo. And for exactly that reason I hope they prevail. Model training can start over and do it right this time.