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> Can China be held to granting them a fair trial with a reasonable punishment Hmm, excellent question. And for context, America is going to give Kim Dotcom

> Can China be held to granting them a fair trial with a reasonable punishment Hmm, excellent question. And for context, America is going to give Kim Dotcom a functional life sentence in what Americans like to call "pound-you-in-the-ass prison". For sharing files. He'll be given more years than harsher than most murderers.

hombre_fatal 2y ago
I find this to be a pretty good counterpoint. Dragging a foreigner (especially) into the country to be put into a metal cage for violating copyright is disgusting.
lenerdenator 2y ago
> And for context, America is going to give Kim Dotcom a functional life sentence in what Americans like to call "pound-you-in-the-ass prison". Unlikely. He'll probably be sentenced to a minimum/low/medium-security prison facility/farm. Over 80% of American federal inmates are in a facility meeting one of those classifications [1]. The federal sentence (using that for comparison since the federal government carries out IP law in the US) for first-degree murder in the US is either life in prison or death by lethal injection. Dotcom is exceedingly unlikely to spend the rest of his life in prison and is obviously not eligible for the death penalty. He'd probably be looking at a decade or two at most. Obviously, that sucks for him, but your assertion that he'll be treated worse than murderers and be SA'd regularly in a prison housing violent inmates is simply not true. [1]https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_sec_levels.jsp https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_sec_l...
- lupusreal 2y ago
  They will pile so many charges on Kim that the total sentence will be in excess of a century. He will never get out. In federal sentencing guidelines, second degree murder (not premeditated) doesn't guarantee a life sentence. What I said is absolutely true.
  - lenerdenator 2y ago
    Many criminal sentences in the US are served concurrently. That's why SBF is sitting in prison for 25 years instead of 110. So, no, what you said isn't absolutely true.

hombre_fatal 2y ago

I find this to be a pretty good counterpoint. Dragging a foreigner (especially) into the country to be put into a metal cage for violating copyright is disgusting.

lenerdenator 2y ago

> And for context, America is going to give Kim Dotcom a functional life sentence in what Americans like to call "pound-you-in-the-ass prison". Unlikely. He'll probably be sentenced to a minimum/low/medium-security prison facility/farm. Over 80% of American federal inmates are in a facility meeting one of those classifications [1]. The federal sentence (using that for comparison since the federal government carries out IP law in the US) for first-degree murder in the US is either life in prison or death by lethal injection. Dotcom is exceedingly unlikely to spend the rest of his life in prison and is obviously not eligible for the death penalty. He'd probably be looking at a decade or two at most. Obviously, that sucks for him, but your assertion that he'll be treated worse than murderers and be SA'd regularly in a prison housing violent inmates is simply not true. [1]https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_sec_levels.jsp https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_sec_l...

lupusreal 2y ago
They will pile so many charges on Kim that the total sentence will be in excess of a century. He will never get out. In federal sentencing guidelines, second degree murder (not premeditated) doesn't guarantee a life sentence. What I said is absolutely true.
- lenerdenator 2y ago
  Many criminal sentences in the US are served concurrently. That's why SBF is sitting in prison for 25 years instead of 110. So, no, what you said isn't absolutely true.