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New Zealand is for all practical purposes a USA protectorate. If you want to break USA law don't do it in a country that is dependent on the USA.

LouisSayers 2y ago
It's really not though. Although NZ has agreements with Aus and the US, you'll find on the ground that kiwis are actually not super fond of the US. We won't let US nuclear ships into our waters, and we actually have quite a good relationship with China. NZ is also quite self sufficient in many ways and so far from other countries that it's fairly sheltered from potential conflict.
- vlovich123 2y ago
  > so far from other countries that it's fairly sheltered from potential conflict I suspect the small size of the economy, the small number of people in it, and lack of strategic importance in military matters are what keep it protected from potential conflict more than it's self sufficiency and distance. In fact, if anything was to create conflict would be someone trying to capture that self-sufficiency to support their own population.
  - LouisSayers 2y ago
    Yes, it's a number of things. Small country, fairly neutral stance, little involvement in international conflict, and huge distance. Follow that up with alliances and there's not much reason to come to NZ, other than for a holiday!
- vlovich123 2y ago
  Also, no nuclear ships but part of five eyes. I think it's more complicated.
- stevenjgarner 2y ago
  It really IS though. I am both a NZ and US citizen, and I am well aware that the Bretton Woods Accord is alive and well (although I agree with Peter Zeihan that its days are numbered).
raggles 2y ago
This is just not at all true, and we are hardly dependant on the USA, which makes up only 10% of our trade. The way that Americans think the world revolves around them is embarrassing.
WheatMillington 2y ago
That is just not true, where do you get your ideas?

LouisSayers 2y ago

It's really not though. Although NZ has agreements with Aus and the US, you'll find on the ground that kiwis are actually not super fond of the US. We won't let US nuclear ships into our waters, and we actually have quite a good relationship with China. NZ is also quite self sufficient in many ways and so far from other countries that it's fairly sheltered from potential conflict.

vlovich123 2y ago
> so far from other countries that it's fairly sheltered from potential conflict I suspect the small size of the economy, the small number of people in it, and lack of strategic importance in military matters are what keep it protected from potential conflict more than it's self sufficiency and distance. In fact, if anything was to create conflict would be someone trying to capture that self-sufficiency to support their own population.
- LouisSayers 2y ago
  Yes, it's a number of things. Small country, fairly neutral stance, little involvement in international conflict, and huge distance. Follow that up with alliances and there's not much reason to come to NZ, other than for a holiday!
vlovich123 2y ago
Also, no nuclear ships but part of five eyes. I think it's more complicated.
stevenjgarner 2y ago
It really IS though. I am both a NZ and US citizen, and I am well aware that the Bretton Woods Accord is alive and well (although I agree with Peter Zeihan that its days are numbered).

raggles 2y ago

This is just not at all true, and we are hardly dependant on the USA, which makes up only 10% of our trade. The way that Americans think the world revolves around them is embarrassing.

WheatMillington 2y ago

That is just not true, where do you get your ideas?