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We will probably end up removing CockroachDB from our infra due to this change. It also makes me a bit worried about their long term viability. How much ARR doe

We will probably end up removing CockroachDB from our infra due to this change. It also makes me a bit worried about their long term viability. How much ARR does CockroachDB have and what was their last round valuation...?

Cwizard 2y ago
What will you switch to? I feel like there isn’t a good alternative.
- shadow28 2y ago
  YugabyteDB is a commonly used alternative.
  - jen20 2y ago
    According to Wikipedia, Yugabyte (the company) has taken 290 million dollars of VC money. It's probably a safe assumption that they will follow the same path soon enough.
    - spiffytech 2y ago
      While the future is unwritten, FWIW in 2019 Yugabyte moved to Apache 2.0, open-sourcing features that were previously paywalled. They wrote up their rationale here: https://www.yugabyte.com/blog/why-we-changed-yugabyte-db-licensing-to-100-open-source/ https://www.yugabyte.com/blog/why-we-changed-yugabyte-db-lic...
      - riku_iki 2y ago
        This won't prevent them back to paywall in future if investors ask.
        largbae 2y ago
        True, but unlike BSL you can fork the last Apache commit the day they do.
      - redwood 2y ago
        How's their business growing compared to Cockroach?
  - remram 2y ago
    Also has a CLA: https://cla-assistant.io/yugabyte/yugabyte-db https://cla-assistant.io/yugabyte/yugabyte-db
- traderj0e 2y ago
  Application-level sharding?
  - harisund1990 2y ago
    Yugabyte does automatic sharding
tschellenbach 2y ago
CockroachDB is easier to manage and more cost effective than Postgress due to that. But now I suspect the balance tips back to Postgres
- geenat 2y ago
  Citus would be great if the HA story was better: https://github.com/citusdata/citus/issues/7602 https://github.com/citusdata/citus/issues/7602
indoordin0saur 2y ago
What issue do you have with the changes? Sounds like it's mostly focused on making it more affordable for small operations.
- mrweasel 2y ago
  Not me, but two issues I could see: Revenue over $10 million, but not profitable, or the license cost would be to high. We had that issue with support contracts Elastic tried selling us, way back, compared to our revenue and profit, the license/support contract made zero sense. Other issue: Telemetry is mandatory on the free tier and cost to avoid it is to high. Some industries cannot have telemetry enable, or at least not without a heavy amount of reviews, think finance or healthcare.
purpleblue 2y ago
Were you paying for it?

Cwizard 2y ago

What will you switch to? I feel like there isn’t a good alternative.

shadow28 2y ago
YugabyteDB is a commonly used alternative.
- jen20 2y ago
  According to Wikipedia, Yugabyte (the company) has taken 290 million dollars of VC money. It's probably a safe assumption that they will follow the same path soon enough.
  - spiffytech 2y ago
    While the future is unwritten, FWIW in 2019 Yugabyte moved to Apache 2.0, open-sourcing features that were previously paywalled. They wrote up their rationale here: https://www.yugabyte.com/blog/why-we-changed-yugabyte-db-licensing-to-100-open-source/ https://www.yugabyte.com/blog/why-we-changed-yugabyte-db-lic...
    - riku_iki 2y ago
      This won't prevent them back to paywall in future if investors ask.
      - largbae 2y ago
        True, but unlike BSL you can fork the last Apache commit the day they do.
    - redwood 2y ago
      How's their business growing compared to Cockroach?
- remram 2y ago
  Also has a CLA: https://cla-assistant.io/yugabyte/yugabyte-db https://cla-assistant.io/yugabyte/yugabyte-db
traderj0e 2y ago
Application-level sharding?
- harisund1990 2y ago
  Yugabyte does automatic sharding

tschellenbach 2y ago

CockroachDB is easier to manage and more cost effective than Postgress due to that. But now I suspect the balance tips back to Postgres

geenat 2y ago
Citus would be great if the HA story was better: https://github.com/citusdata/citus/issues/7602 https://github.com/citusdata/citus/issues/7602

indoordin0saur 2y ago

What issue do you have with the changes? Sounds like it's mostly focused on making it more affordable for small operations.

mrweasel 2y ago
Not me, but two issues I could see: Revenue over $10 million, but not profitable, or the license cost would be to high. We had that issue with support contracts Elastic tried selling us, way back, compared to our revenue and profit, the license/support contract made zero sense. Other issue: Telemetry is mandatory on the free tier and cost to avoid it is to high. Some industries cannot have telemetry enable, or at least not without a heavy amount of reviews, think finance or healthcare.

purpleblue 2y ago

Were you paying for it?