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The Vegas Loop will have huge advantages over subways (cost, faster construction with fewer disruptions, smaller station footprint, mostly point-to-point servic
by zone411 2y ago
The Vegas Loop will have huge advantages over subways (cost, faster construction with fewer disruptions, smaller station footprint, mostly point-to-point service, more privacy for riders), and Vegas is the perfect place to showcase it to a large audience of visitors. Self-driving is much easier in such a controlled environment, and since it's clearly coming, focusing on the current use of a driver is pointless.
- tsimionescu 2y agoThe LVCC so far is more expensive, slower to build, has had more disruptions, needs huge stations, is only one-way, and has terrible privacy (you're stuck with a stranger in the small space of a car instead of a the large space of a subway car). It's worse than a subway in every possible way. And it will always be worse than a subway in every possible way, because cars are an extremely inefficient way of carrying people around. You can make a train with more private space per passenger than a car and still fit way more people in one than in the equivalent amount of car. There will never be a way to make cars as economical as trains, for very very very basic geometric reasons.
- Veedrac 2y ago> The LVCC so far is more expensive, slower to build [than subway] This is just factually false. LVCC was something like 4x cheaper than its competing non-subway bid and something like 20-30x cheaper than just the amortized cost per mile of subway in the US. Subway also ages to construct in the US.
- tsimionescu 2y agoIf you're comparing just to the US, maybe. It's still much more expensive to operate, per passenger.
- Veedrac 2y agoCompare it to Europe, same deal, the large constants are just slightly less large.