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>...horrible power requirements. ... perfectly fine for a desktop computer. Just not so great for phones, tablets and portable computers. Except no one buys de

>...horrible power requirements. ... perfectly fine for a desktop computer. Just not so great for phones, tablets and portable computers. Except no one buys desktop computers any more: everyone's using phones, tablets, and laptop computers. There's also servers, but even here power efficiency is important; reduced power requirements for a datacenter would save a lot of money, not just in direct electricity consumption by the servers, but also from reduced cooling needs.

high_na_euv 2y ago
>Except no one buys desktop computers any more Wtf? >Power efficiency Isa has small impact on it.
- dartos 2y ago
  Consumer sales of desktops have been falling for years. A lot of regular office workplaces moved to laptops+docking stations as well. People still buy desktops, but it’s a dying breed outside of gamers artists and those with heavy compute requirements
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    Yeah, and not only that, many of those "desktops" are probably "workstations". We had heavy compute requirements at my last job so we were assigned workstations with dual Xeon CPUs, not standard Intel desktop chips. Outside of a couple unusual places like that, laptops have been the standard for workplaces over the last couple decades for me.
    - Tomte 2y ago
      At my employer that started during covid. Before that laptops were not quite limited to managers, but they did signify higher status (if not necessarily pay). Today it‘s iPads that signify status.
- wetpaws 2y ago
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pjmlp 2y ago
Ah, that is why Sony and Microsoft are now eyeing PC versions of console games, because no one ever buys gaming rings any longer, aka desktop computers. Also what do you think most contributors to LLVM, GCC, CUDA, VFX,.. use as daily driver?
- felixgallo 2y ago
  https://www.finaria.it/trading/laptop-sales-to-generate-almost-150b-in-revenue-by-2025-desktop-pc-market-to-drop-to-54b/ https://www.finaria.it/trading/laptop-sales-to-generate-almo... it's not clear that the 'contributors to LLVM' market is going to make up the shortfall.
foxyv 2y ago
As I understand it, PC sales have been pretty flat. It's just their market share has been diluted by the monstrous number of tablets and phones. https://www.statista.com/statistics/273495/global-shipments-of-personal-computers-since-2006/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/273495/global-shipments-...
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  I don't think those numbers are correct at all: they appear to be grouping laptops in with "personal computers". We're talking about desktop computers here.

high_na_euv 2y ago

>Except no one buys desktop computers any more Wtf? >Power efficiency Isa has small impact on it.

dartos 2y ago
Consumer sales of desktops have been falling for years. A lot of regular office workplaces moved to laptops+docking stations as well. People still buy desktops, but it’s a dying breed outside of gamers artists and those with heavy compute requirements
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  Yeah, and not only that, many of those "desktops" are probably "workstations". We had heavy compute requirements at my last job so we were assigned workstations with dual Xeon CPUs, not standard Intel desktop chips. Outside of a couple unusual places like that, laptops have been the standard for workplaces over the last couple decades for me.
  - Tomte 2y ago
    At my employer that started during covid. Before that laptops were not quite limited to managers, but they did signify higher status (if not necessarily pay). Today it‘s iPads that signify status.
wetpaws 2y ago
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pjmlp 2y ago

Ah, that is why Sony and Microsoft are now eyeing PC versions of console games, because no one ever buys gaming rings any longer, aka desktop computers. Also what do you think most contributors to LLVM, GCC, CUDA, VFX,.. use as daily driver?

felixgallo 2y ago
https://www.finaria.it/trading/laptop-sales-to-generate-almost-150b-in-revenue-by-2025-desktop-pc-market-to-drop-to-54b/ https://www.finaria.it/trading/laptop-sales-to-generate-almo... it's not clear that the 'contributors to LLVM' market is going to make up the shortfall.

foxyv 2y ago

As I understand it, PC sales have been pretty flat. It's just their market share has been diluted by the monstrous number of tablets and phones. https://www.statista.com/statistics/273495/global-shipments-of-personal-computers-since-2006/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/273495/global-shipments-...

shiroiushi 2y ago
I don't think those numbers are correct at all: they appear to be grouping laptops in with "personal computers". We're talking about desktop computers here.