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It will probably be Opera. The only reason I don't use their browsers is because I don't like running non-free software and really don't like using it heavily o

It will probably be Opera. The only reason I don't use their browsers is because I don't like running non-free software and really don't like using it heavily or for anything important but losing ad block would push me into it.

Lord-Jobo 2y ago
Opera is chromium is it not?
- katzinsky 2y ago
  It is for now. I'm sure they'd fork it if they had to.
  - treyd 2y ago
    Why would they have to? That's more effort than maintaining the reskin they already do.
dudisubekti 2y ago
There’s Brave with built-in adblocker… But they have built-in crypto ads too that so far you can disable.
- baal80spam 2y ago
  I'm using Brave for 5 years now and I've yet to see anything crypto-related. Maybe that's because I spent 10 minutes in Settings after installing it.
  - kreetx 2y ago
    Yup, the ads can be disabled. I use Firefox as main, and Brave as the "how does this site look in Chrome?" browser.
lp0_on_fire 2y ago
Opera was the first "not IE or Netscape" browser I used. It would be poetic to go back to it now.
- narimiran 2y ago
  > Opera was the first "not IE or Netscape" browser I used. It would be poetic to go back to it now. If you want to go back to the "original Opera", that is now Vivaldi.
  - _nalply 2y ago
    Why? Vivaldi is Chromium.
    - ch_123 2y ago
      So is Opera itself. Vivaldi has made more of an effort to have the same functionality and look/feel as the original Opera.
      - _nalply 2y ago
        But it won't help if manifest V2 supporting code is finally deleted from Chromium. Vivaldi already has a built-in adblocker in place, so Vivaldi ad-blocking doesn't depend on V2 being available. This said, V2 shouldn't be removed at all because this will stifle the extension ecosystem. I predict that extensions will stagnate. Just because some ad-obsessed company killed V2 to stop an extension threatening their revenue.
ffsm8 2y ago
There are several chromium forks that also declared they'll keep manifest V2. I.e Vivaldi, Microsoft Edge
- _nalply 2y ago
  They didn't declare anything about that. Vivaldi said they have their own ad blocker not dependent on V2 [0]. Edge is in process of updating their timeline [1]. I think the problem is. What if Chromium won't have code supporting V2 anymore? This means, it is just impossible to run V2 extensions because V2 is not only turned off but completely removed. Vivaldi seems to have decided that they will provide a built-in feature for advanced ad blocking and Edge seems to be undecided yet. [0]: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/98631/manifest-v3-update-vivaldi-is-future-proofed-with-its-built-in-functionality https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/98631/manifest-v3-update-viv... [1]: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/edge-developer/blob/main/microsoft-edge/extensions-chromium/developer-guide/manifest-v3.md https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/edge-developer/blob/main/mi...
  - ffsm8 2y ago
    Oof, sorry for spreading misinformation. I could've sword that I read an announcement years ago by Microsoft, stating that they're not planning to deprecate V2 and keep supporting both. I cannot find this announcement anymore, and it seems the deprecation is already in effect.
    - _nalply 2y ago
      Thanks for acknowledging. Mistakes can and do happen, or information has changed since the post. I also accidentally wrote misinformation here on Hacker News.

Lord-Jobo 2y ago

Opera is chromium is it not?

katzinsky 2y ago
It is for now. I'm sure they'd fork it if they had to.
- treyd 2y ago
  Why would they have to? That's more effort than maintaining the reskin they already do.

dudisubekti 2y ago

There’s Brave with built-in adblocker… But they have built-in crypto ads too that so far you can disable.

baal80spam 2y ago
I'm using Brave for 5 years now and I've yet to see anything crypto-related. Maybe that's because I spent 10 minutes in Settings after installing it.
- kreetx 2y ago
  Yup, the ads can be disabled. I use Firefox as main, and Brave as the "how does this site look in Chrome?" browser.

lp0_on_fire 2y ago

Opera was the first "not IE or Netscape" browser I used. It would be poetic to go back to it now.

narimiran 2y ago
> Opera was the first "not IE or Netscape" browser I used. It would be poetic to go back to it now. If you want to go back to the "original Opera", that is now Vivaldi.
- _nalply 2y ago
  Why? Vivaldi is Chromium.
  - ch_123 2y ago
    So is Opera itself. Vivaldi has made more of an effort to have the same functionality and look/feel as the original Opera.
    - _nalply 2y ago
      But it won't help if manifest V2 supporting code is finally deleted from Chromium. Vivaldi already has a built-in adblocker in place, so Vivaldi ad-blocking doesn't depend on V2 being available. This said, V2 shouldn't be removed at all because this will stifle the extension ecosystem. I predict that extensions will stagnate. Just because some ad-obsessed company killed V2 to stop an extension threatening their revenue.

ffsm8 2y ago

There are several chromium forks that also declared they'll keep manifest V2. I.e Vivaldi, Microsoft Edge

_nalply 2y ago
They didn't declare anything about that. Vivaldi said they have their own ad blocker not dependent on V2 [0]. Edge is in process of updating their timeline [1]. I think the problem is. What if Chromium won't have code supporting V2 anymore? This means, it is just impossible to run V2 extensions because V2 is not only turned off but completely removed. Vivaldi seems to have decided that they will provide a built-in feature for advanced ad blocking and Edge seems to be undecided yet. [0]: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/98631/manifest-v3-update-vivaldi-is-future-proofed-with-its-built-in-functionality https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/98631/manifest-v3-update-viv... [1]: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/edge-developer/blob/main/microsoft-edge/extensions-chromium/developer-guide/manifest-v3.md https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/edge-developer/blob/main/mi...
- ffsm8 2y ago
  Oof, sorry for spreading misinformation. I could've sword that I read an announcement years ago by Microsoft, stating that they're not planning to deprecate V2 and keep supporting both. I cannot find this announcement anymore, and it seems the deprecation is already in effect.
  - _nalply 2y ago
    Thanks for acknowledging. Mistakes can and do happen, or information has changed since the post. I also accidentally wrote misinformation here on Hacker News.