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Developers can soon offer in‑app NFC transactions using the Secure Element

11 points by snotrockets 2y ago

cma 2y ago
Can they add a big tax to it once it is disseminated widely or is it kind of designed against that happening?
- nashashmi 2y ago
  I think there is a fee for application for access to NFC. Only certain applications are allowed, for which payment is one and building access is another.
- joshstrange 2y ago
  We can talk about the App store tax or other gross things Apple has done but to my knowledge Apple has never rug-pulled on something like payments. I can't think of a time they released something for free/lower fee then add/raised the fee. Maybe I'm forgetting something? Also I think this is related to/create because of the DMA so they are opening it up because they have to, they aren't likely to try to close it down/add fees.
  - throwaway48540 2y ago
    It's not available in any location where the dma is relevant...
    - joshstrange 2y ago
      Interesting I thought this was part of the DMA, that they had to open up hardware to everyone, specifically the NFC chip.
      - throwaway48540 2y ago
        It isn't, and the payment services regulation of EU actually might make this use case completely impossible here. All the payment apps that worked like this (on Android) were scrapped because of the regulation, and it's all through Apple/Google/Samsung Pay only now. I really would like if Apple found a legal workaround, but I'm not hopeful.
        lxgr 2y ago
        How did the EU regulation that requires Apple to provide NFC card emulation capabilities to apps impact apps already doing the same thing on Android?
  - cma 2y ago
    Apple rug pulled on Apple Sign-in but later reversed the decision: https://x.com/EpicGames/status/1303716447831707649 https://x.com/EpicGames/status/1303716447831707649
- snotrockets 2y ago
  From the press release: > To incorporate this new solution in their iPhone apps, developers will need to enter into a commercial agreement with Apple, request the NFC and SE entitlement, and pay the associated fees.
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11 points by snotrockets 2y ago

cma 2y ago

Can they add a big tax to it once it is disseminated widely or is it kind of designed against that happening?

nashashmi 2y ago
I think there is a fee for application for access to NFC. Only certain applications are allowed, for which payment is one and building access is another.
joshstrange 2y ago
We can talk about the App store tax or other gross things Apple has done but to my knowledge Apple has never rug-pulled on something like payments. I can't think of a time they released something for free/lower fee then add/raised the fee. Maybe I'm forgetting something? Also I think this is related to/create because of the DMA so they are opening it up because they have to, they aren't likely to try to close it down/add fees.
- throwaway48540 2y ago
  It's not available in any location where the dma is relevant...
  - joshstrange 2y ago
    Interesting I thought this was part of the DMA, that they had to open up hardware to everyone, specifically the NFC chip.
    - throwaway48540 2y ago
      It isn't, and the payment services regulation of EU actually might make this use case completely impossible here. All the payment apps that worked like this (on Android) were scrapped because of the regulation, and it's all through Apple/Google/Samsung Pay only now. I really would like if Apple found a legal workaround, but I'm not hopeful.
      - lxgr 2y ago
        How did the EU regulation that requires Apple to provide NFC card emulation capabilities to apps impact apps already doing the same thing on Android?
- cma 2y ago
  Apple rug pulled on Apple Sign-in but later reversed the decision: https://x.com/EpicGames/status/1303716447831707649 https://x.com/EpicGames/status/1303716447831707649
snotrockets 2y ago
From the press release: > To incorporate this new solution in their iPhone apps, developers will need to enter into a commercial agreement with Apple, request the NFC and SE entitlement, and pay the associated fees.

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