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Yep this works really nicely, and psychologically it's somehow way more relaxing than having to curate what you watch I predict this appears as real youtube fe

by A_Duck 2y ago

Yep this works really nicely, and psychologically it's somehow way more relaxing than having to curate what you watch I predict this appears as real youtube feature soon. Since it will also allow them to do a Spotify-style payola approach to scheduling.

digging 2y ago
> I predict this appears as real youtube feature soon. I doubt it would. The modern style of binging on-demand streaming content seems to be too effective at capturing attention. Remember that lots of people get notifications on their phone the instant a new video comes out for a subscribed channel, especially kids and teens who haven't developed resistance to these business models. YT would be unlikely to spend any effort implementing an alternate mode that doesn't capture attention as effectively; the old model of live channels is likely a niche preference. If somehow this did prove to be more effective at capturing attention, I could see it being implemented, but that would surprise me.
Group_B 2y ago
well they already have youtube shorts, which is kinda similar.
- bobbob1921 2y ago
  I hate that if anytime I upload a short video it forces the video to YouTube shorts. Especially since I’m not making content for the public - it’s more a demo video or something to specifically send to a few people. As with so many services nowadays, I like the ability to use YouTube shorts when I want, but I hate that it’s forced upon us with no reasonable and consistent method to not use shorts at the users discretion.
  - rd 2y ago
    Uploading horizontally or >1m should fix this? Most things or demos I send are horizontal, but I agree, the automatic shorts of vertical is annoying
- crucialfelix 2y ago
  But that triggers an immediate tiktok dopamine chase. I immediately want to judge what I'm seeing and swipe to move on. I start wondering about the ML training on my every move and hesitation. It's restless
aa-jv 2y ago
Along the same lines, I have a near-terabyte of videos I have downloaded from Youtube, of my own vast and multivariate interests, and having it on random, with a simple pause/next/prev-style interface, is also a compelling viewer-experience equillibrium akin to the sets of yore .. (cue Buggles..)
0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
I have long wanted Netflix to offer this feature. Just give me a random episode of a low stakes sitcom. Seinfeld, SVU, whatever. My other wishlist item was that Netflix would offer a “shuffle” this series option. For standalone episodic shows, ordering does not matter, and it is a bunch of overhead to pick something.
- saintfire 2y ago
  I didn't realize how much I would appreciate shuffle until i started using jellyfin. I use it all the time for shows that have self-contained episodes (e.g. Futurama).
- dustincoates 2y ago
  Netflix offered this in France back in 2020[0], but appeared to have removed it in 2022[1]. 0: https://www.vulture.com/2020/11/netflix-linear-channels-direct.html https://www.vulture.com/2020/11/netflix-linear-channels-dire... 1: https://www.numerama.com/pop-culture/1273686-netflix-direct-a-disparu-en-france-il-y-a-1-an-mais-personne-ne-sen-est-rendu-compte.html https://www.numerama.com/pop-culture/1273686-netflix-direct-...
dotnet00 2y ago
>I predict this appears as real youtube feature soon I highly doubt it. They're going to wait for competitors to implement it and have it for several years before they bother to poorly copy the idea.
teska 2y ago
They experimented with it for a bit last year. I think Linus talked about it on the WAN show, and for a while LTT had it enabled on their channel. It was essentially a 24/7 livestream which played from their back catalogue, with the ability to add "promo" segments in between videos, which they used for products on their merch store. Seemed to dissapear around the same time the whole monoblock scandal and production shutdown happened last year, so I'm not sure if the YouTube experiment also concluded or if they turned it off during the shutdown.

by A_Duck 2y ago

digging 2y ago

> I predict this appears as real youtube feature soon. I doubt it would. The modern style of binging on-demand streaming content seems to be too effective at capturing attention. Remember that lots of people get notifications on their phone the instant a new video comes out for a subscribed channel, especially kids and teens who haven't developed resistance to these business models. YT would be unlikely to spend any effort implementing an alternate mode that doesn't capture attention as effectively; the old model of live channels is likely a niche preference. If somehow this did prove to be more effective at capturing attention, I could see it being implemented, but that would surprise me.

Group_B 2y ago

well they already have youtube shorts, which is kinda similar.

bobbob1921 2y ago
I hate that if anytime I upload a short video it forces the video to YouTube shorts. Especially since I’m not making content for the public - it’s more a demo video or something to specifically send to a few people. As with so many services nowadays, I like the ability to use YouTube shorts when I want, but I hate that it’s forced upon us with no reasonable and consistent method to not use shorts at the users discretion.
- rd 2y ago
  Uploading horizontally or >1m should fix this? Most things or demos I send are horizontal, but I agree, the automatic shorts of vertical is annoying
crucialfelix 2y ago
But that triggers an immediate tiktok dopamine chase. I immediately want to judge what I'm seeing and swipe to move on. I start wondering about the ML training on my every move and hesitation. It's restless

aa-jv 2y ago

Along the same lines, I have a near-terabyte of videos I have downloaded from Youtube, of my own vast and multivariate interests, and having it on random, with a simple pause/next/prev-style interface, is also a compelling viewer-experience equillibrium akin to the sets of yore .. (cue Buggles..)

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago

I have long wanted Netflix to offer this feature. Just give me a random episode of a low stakes sitcom. Seinfeld, SVU, whatever. My other wishlist item was that Netflix would offer a “shuffle” this series option. For standalone episodic shows, ordering does not matter, and it is a bunch of overhead to pick something.

saintfire 2y ago
I didn't realize how much I would appreciate shuffle until i started using jellyfin. I use it all the time for shows that have self-contained episodes (e.g. Futurama).
dustincoates 2y ago
Netflix offered this in France back in 2020[0], but appeared to have removed it in 2022[1]. 0: https://www.vulture.com/2020/11/netflix-linear-channels-direct.html https://www.vulture.com/2020/11/netflix-linear-channels-dire... 1: https://www.numerama.com/pop-culture/1273686-netflix-direct-a-disparu-en-france-il-y-a-1-an-mais-personne-ne-sen-est-rendu-compte.html https://www.numerama.com/pop-culture/1273686-netflix-direct-...

dotnet00 2y ago

>I predict this appears as real youtube feature soon I highly doubt it. They're going to wait for competitors to implement it and have it for several years before they bother to poorly copy the idea.

teska 2y ago

They experimented with it for a bit last year. I think Linus talked about it on the WAN show, and for a while LTT had it enabled on their channel. It was essentially a 24/7 livestream which played from their back catalogue, with the ability to add "promo" segments in between videos, which they used for products on their merch store. Seemed to dissapear around the same time the whole monoblock scandal and production shutdown happened last year, so I'm not sure if the YouTube experiment also concluded or if they turned it off during the shutdown.