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What is it protecting us from, realistically? It's just a powerplay by the world's most incompeteny private club (brussels)

by seydor 2y ago

ionwake 2y ago
well its protecting us from data mining. Which is good. But I disagree with the clunky implementation.
- sunaookami 2y ago
  The EU itself wants to data mine everything, just look at chat control.
  - croes 2y ago
    That's the same kind of protection Apple is praised for. Not perfect but better than open EU citizens to global data mining.
    - sunaookami 2y ago
      Who praises Apple for this??? It's completely unacceptable for a self-described "free liberal democracy".
croes 2y ago
>most incompeteny private club Is that based on any facts or just the typical EU myths like the cucumber regulation?
- seydor 2y ago
  EU is not just brussels. Can you point to some particular point at which brussels has shown competence in the past 20 years?
  - usrbinbash 2y ago
    Safest countries in the world: Check. Countries with the highest average standard of living: Check. Countris consistently socring among, or as, highest in citizen happiness indices: Check. Stable Economy: Check. Successfully implemented measures to combat a global pandemic: Check. Slowly but surely fading out dependency on russian fossile fuels: Check. Best privacy protection laws in the world: Check. Shall I go on?
    - seydor 2y ago
      Those are individual countries doing great (some not so great, some economies bankrupted etc, but still) I asked about the brussels bubble. Only the privacy laws are relevant. I can't say that it made a dent to our overall privacy, since our tech is US based and we have no idea where our data really are.
      - usrbinbash 2y ago
        > Those are individual countries doing great These countries are doing great because they are part of the EU. If anyone disagrees, well, it's not like we lack experimental data: https://www.london.gov.uk/new-report-reveals-uk-economy-almost-ps140billion-smaller-because-brexit#:~:text=The%20average%20Briton%20was%20nearly,jobs%20in%20the%20capital%20alone https://www.london.gov.uk/new-report-reveals-uk-economy-almo.... https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/brexit/ https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/brexit/ https://www.politico.eu/article/political-gridlock-northern-irelands-net-zero-clean-energy-wind-turbines/ https://www.politico.eu/article/political-gridlock-northern-...
    - logicchains 2y ago
      >Safest countries in the world: Check. The safest countries in the world are in East Asia; there's no country in Western Europe where you can leave your wallet on the table in a major city and not worry about it being stolen. >Stable Economy: Check. It's stable in the sense that for most of western Europe (France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece) GDP per capita now is no higher than it was 10 years ago. One of the few places in the world where people's material standard of living is no longer improving every year.

What is it protecting us from, realistically? It's just a powerplay by the world's most incompeteny private club (brussels)

by seydor 2y ago

What is it protecting us from, realistically? It's just a powerplay by the world's most incompeteny private club (brussels)

ionwake 2y ago

well its protecting us from data mining. Which is good. But I disagree with the clunky implementation.

sunaookami 2y ago
The EU itself wants to data mine everything, just look at chat control.
- croes 2y ago
  That's the same kind of protection Apple is praised for. Not perfect but better than open EU citizens to global data mining.
  - sunaookami 2y ago
    Who praises Apple for this??? It's completely unacceptable for a self-described "free liberal democracy".

croes 2y ago

>most incompeteny private club Is that based on any facts or just the typical EU myths like the cucumber regulation?

seydor 2y ago
EU is not just brussels. Can you point to some particular point at which brussels has shown competence in the past 20 years?
- usrbinbash 2y ago
  Safest countries in the world: Check. Countries with the highest average standard of living: Check. Countris consistently socring among, or as, highest in citizen happiness indices: Check. Stable Economy: Check. Successfully implemented measures to combat a global pandemic: Check. Slowly but surely fading out dependency on russian fossile fuels: Check. Best privacy protection laws in the world: Check. Shall I go on?
  - seydor 2y ago
    Those are individual countries doing great (some not so great, some economies bankrupted etc, but still) I asked about the brussels bubble. Only the privacy laws are relevant. I can't say that it made a dent to our overall privacy, since our tech is US based and we have no idea where our data really are.
    - usrbinbash 2y ago
      > Those are individual countries doing great These countries are doing great because they are part of the EU. If anyone disagrees, well, it's not like we lack experimental data: https://www.london.gov.uk/new-report-reveals-uk-economy-almost-ps140billion-smaller-because-brexit#:~:text=The%20average%20Briton%20was%20nearly,jobs%20in%20the%20capital%20alone https://www.london.gov.uk/new-report-reveals-uk-economy-almo.... https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/brexit/ https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/brexit/ https://www.politico.eu/article/political-gridlock-northern-irelands-net-zero-clean-energy-wind-turbines/ https://www.politico.eu/article/political-gridlock-northern-...
  - logicchains 2y ago
    >Safest countries in the world: Check. The safest countries in the world are in East Asia; there's no country in Western Europe where you can leave your wallet on the table in a major city and not worry about it being stolen. >Stable Economy: Check. It's stable in the sense that for most of western Europe (France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece) GDP per capita now is no higher than it was 10 years ago. One of the few places in the world where people's material standard of living is no longer improving every year.