4 ms·

What makes you think I have a strong reaction? >What I wrote needed to be said There are apparently plenty of people who disagree (myself included) based on t

by bumby 2y ago

What makes you think I have a strong reaction? >What I wrote needed to be said There are apparently plenty of people who disagree (myself included) based on the comments. I think the reaction you're getting is because it's not a particularly fruitful comment because it adds nothing to the conversation, while being veiled as a profound statement. >The degree of the provocation proves the value of the statement. Except the response isn't a response to the claim, it's in response to the absence of one. If a researcher publishes some incomprehensible word-salad and lots of people write to the editor saying it's a worthless article, it doesn't somehow translate value to the original work. I think what you're experiencing is people being protective of HN in terms of having meaningful debate and what you said isn't particularly meaningful despite the wordsmithing.

nilkn 2y ago
> I think what you're experiencing is people being protective of HN in terms of having meaningful debate and what you said isn't particularly meaningful despite the wordsmithing. As of the writing of this comment, every single comment I wrote here was upvoted. So, no. I can’t control the future, but what you wrote here was absolutely false when you wrote it. > There are apparently plenty of people who disagree (myself included) based on the comments. And that’s great — that means it’s thought provoking enough to generate debate with complex views on both sides. In other words, yet again proving the value of the statement.
- bumby 2y ago
  If internet points are how you’re measuring the validity of a point, there’s all kinds of things going wrong. Again, people pushing back doesn’t mean you’re fostering fruitful debate anymore than flat-earthers are generating debate “with complex views.”
  - nilkn 2y ago
    You are the one who brought up reception here, not me. I merely responded. So if you don’t like it, don’t choose it yourself first. All that happened is you selected a metric that you thought was favorable to yourself, but you miscalculated and are now claiming the metric was never even valid.
    - bumby 2y ago
      >you selected a metric that you thought was favorable to yourself Please point to where I first used forum upvotes as a useful metric.
      - nilkn 2y ago
        You used reception here to argue against me, going so far as to claim that people are “protecting HN” from my comment. Given that, I pointed out another form of measuring said reception. Suddenly, you were up in arms about using reception and continue to protest it.
        deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]

by bumby 2y ago

nilkn 2y ago

> I think what you're experiencing is people being protective of HN in terms of having meaningful debate and what you said isn't particularly meaningful despite the wordsmithing. As of the writing of this comment, every single comment I wrote here was upvoted. So, no. I can’t control the future, but what you wrote here was absolutely false when you wrote it. > There are apparently plenty of people who disagree (myself included) based on the comments. And that’s great — that means it’s thought provoking enough to generate debate with complex views on both sides. In other words, yet again proving the value of the statement.

bumby 2y ago
If internet points are how you’re measuring the validity of a point, there’s all kinds of things going wrong. Again, people pushing back doesn’t mean you’re fostering fruitful debate anymore than flat-earthers are generating debate “with complex views.”
- nilkn 2y ago
  You are the one who brought up reception here, not me. I merely responded. So if you don’t like it, don’t choose it yourself first. All that happened is you selected a metric that you thought was favorable to yourself, but you miscalculated and are now claiming the metric was never even valid.
  - bumby 2y ago
    >you selected a metric that you thought was favorable to yourself Please point to where I first used forum upvotes as a useful metric.
    - nilkn 2y ago
      You used reception here to argue against me, going so far as to claim that people are “protecting HN” from my comment. Given that, I pointed out another form of measuring said reception. Suddenly, you were up in arms about using reception and continue to protest it.
      - deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]