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> We have AppStore for the hundreds of thousands of apps that cannot be implemented using web tech. These are not disconnected, though. The web COULD be made t

> We have AppStore for the hundreds of thousands of apps that cannot be implemented using web tech. These are not disconnected, though. The web COULD be made to support more of these use cases, but Apple wouldn't be able to collect 30% of the profits. Safari was a laggard for many years while the App Store was being entrenched.

troupo 2y ago
> The web COULD be made to support more of these use cases No, it couldn't > but Apple Apple has nothing to do with the fact that the web can barely render a page of static text and images without stutter. Almost every single app made with web technologies is a slow bloated abomination barely capable of doing a few primitive things right. And those that aren't have insane amounts of effort poured into them. If you believe that Apple has something to do with it, why isn't there a flood of amazing smooth native-like apps on Android where none of the real or perceived limitations exist? Why is there a Google Play store with hundreds of thousands of apps?
- meiraleal 2y ago
  oh you think your shitty swift app is any better?
  - troupo 2y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41239006 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41239006
- lenkite 2y ago
  There are a truck load of crappy SwiftUI apps that make your average bloated web app look like lean, FTL starships. They stutter so much with broken animations that you are afraid that your phone had a stroke.
  - troupo 2y ago
    And crappy Swift apps invalidate my point how exactly? Note how you addressed nothing I wrote.
    - meiraleal 2y ago
      Your argument that almost every web app is bloated is dumb. Where did you get that data from? Based on what you say the native apps aren't as bloated? You are talking out of your A.
      - troupo 2y ago
        Thank you for confirming that there's no point in engaging in a conversation with you. Adieu.
    - lenkite 2y ago
      > Note how you addressed nothing I wrote. Not sure what to address in your post since only your contempt against the web was of especial note. There are more apps in the Android Play Store than the iOS App Store. There are also third party app stores offered by Amazon, Samsung, including OSS ones like F-Droid. So..I am not sure what point you were trying to make, sorry.

troupo 2y ago

> The web COULD be made to support more of these use cases No, it couldn't > but Apple Apple has nothing to do with the fact that the web can barely render a page of static text and images without stutter. Almost every single app made with web technologies is a slow bloated abomination barely capable of doing a few primitive things right. And those that aren't have insane amounts of effort poured into them. If you believe that Apple has something to do with it, why isn't there a flood of amazing smooth native-like apps on Android where none of the real or perceived limitations exist? Why is there a Google Play store with hundreds of thousands of apps?

meiraleal 2y ago
oh you think your shitty swift app is any better?
- troupo 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41239006 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41239006
lenkite 2y ago
There are a truck load of crappy SwiftUI apps that make your average bloated web app look like lean, FTL starships. They stutter so much with broken animations that you are afraid that your phone had a stroke.
- troupo 2y ago
  And crappy Swift apps invalidate my point how exactly? Note how you addressed nothing I wrote.
  - meiraleal 2y ago
    Your argument that almost every web app is bloated is dumb. Where did you get that data from? Based on what you say the native apps aren't as bloated? You are talking out of your A.
    - troupo 2y ago
      Thank you for confirming that there's no point in engaging in a conversation with you. Adieu.
  - lenkite 2y ago
    > Note how you addressed nothing I wrote. Not sure what to address in your post since only your contempt against the web was of especial note. There are more apps in the Android Play Store than the iOS App Store. There are also third party app stores offered by Amazon, Samsung, including OSS ones like F-Droid. So..I am not sure what point you were trying to make, sorry.