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Exactly zero of that is AI. You've described an extremely basic control loop with a few simple sensors, a lookup table, and some if-then statements.

elif 2y ago
That might be how you would implement it, are you refusing to concede that Samsung could have implemented it better than your strawman implementation? What is your standard for intelligence? My washing machine is already better at doing laundry than I am (even if I was in total control of a machine with identical capabilities), why is that not good enough for you?
- oe 2y ago
  I think the point was that every new washing machine already does these things (measures how much detergent to use, checks when the water is clean enough etc.) without any AI. It’s not a very difficult problem domain.
  - _xiaz 2y ago
    We may concede that it could be difficult from an engineering/sensors perspective, but the software side should be about as easy as a traffic light
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    Honestly those new smart washing machines with large graphic LCD displays full off sensors to detect the water quality, detergent quantity, how soiled the wash is, etc, are annoying me to hell an back with their constant nagging. "Oh sorry, your drum is a little light , consider putting more clothes in to save the environment" I throw another towel in. "Oh shucks, drum weight overload, consider removing some clothes from the wash" The problem with the new ones is that they're too smart for their own good and instead of using their smarts to make my life easier (I don't know what can be easier than the old washing machines where you throw the was inside, with the detergent, turn the program knob and push start, and why we need smart ones) they instead use their smarts to be annoying and require more user input and more steps just to fucking wash clothes.
CapsAdmin 2y ago
Tangentially, we used to have the term "smart" for this. It slowly faded as it became redundant, but now everything is suddenly AI.
BirAdam 2y ago
It’s not an LLM (and if it is, what a waste) but it is a limited scope AI of the sort used to control units in a classic RTS.
- deleted 2y ago
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- uoaei 2y ago
  this is the level where pedantry and vagueness seem to coincide -- we can get so pedantic about what is or is not a synonym of "statistical learning" that we end up deconstructing language itself.

elif 2y ago

That might be how you would implement it, are you refusing to concede that Samsung could have implemented it better than your strawman implementation? What is your standard for intelligence? My washing machine is already better at doing laundry than I am (even if I was in total control of a machine with identical capabilities), why is that not good enough for you?

oe 2y ago
I think the point was that every new washing machine already does these things (measures how much detergent to use, checks when the water is clean enough etc.) without any AI. It’s not a very difficult problem domain.
- _xiaz 2y ago
  We may concede that it could be difficult from an engineering/sensors perspective, but the software side should be about as easy as a traffic light
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  Honestly those new smart washing machines with large graphic LCD displays full off sensors to detect the water quality, detergent quantity, how soiled the wash is, etc, are annoying me to hell an back with their constant nagging. "Oh sorry, your drum is a little light , consider putting more clothes in to save the environment" I throw another towel in. "Oh shucks, drum weight overload, consider removing some clothes from the wash" The problem with the new ones is that they're too smart for their own good and instead of using their smarts to make my life easier (I don't know what can be easier than the old washing machines where you throw the was inside, with the detergent, turn the program knob and push start, and why we need smart ones) they instead use their smarts to be annoying and require more user input and more steps just to fucking wash clothes.

CapsAdmin 2y ago

Tangentially, we used to have the term "smart" for this. It slowly faded as it became redundant, but now everything is suddenly AI.

BirAdam 2y ago

It’s not an LLM (and if it is, what a waste) but it is a limited scope AI of the sort used to control units in a classic RTS.

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uoaei 2y ago
this is the level where pedantry and vagueness seem to coincide -- we can get so pedantic about what is or is not a synonym of "statistical learning" that we end up deconstructing language itself.