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It's also turning me away. Not because I don't like or fear AI. It's because I know, the usages of AI in names of products is a sure sign for incompetent market

It's also turning me away. Not because I don't like or fear AI. It's because I know, the usages of AI in names of products is a sure sign for incompetent marketing, who doesn't know what to do and who is desperate. I wouldn't buy from marketing that is desperate to sell things after they dictated them.

vladvasiliu 2y ago
I never really bought the whole AI marketing spiels either, but I kinda understood the angle. They don't really know what they're selling, etc. But what really shocked me, was when people on the client side are asking suppliers if they're not working on anything AI-based, since everyone is doing it. But those people did always give me the vibe you're talking about: "they don't know what to do and are desperate". I guess my point is that maybe, at least some of the time, marketers aren't that stupid.
- lazide 2y ago
  Trying to convince your customers they’re stupid for wanting what they want is generally a pretty dumb marketing/sales tactic.
- theGeatZhopa 2y ago
  I didn't want to express that marketeers are stupid or so. In the opposite, it's an art to sell features. But having a product, like the mentioned washing machine in some thread here, and putting AI into the name is a sign of desperation for me. "We need a feature every other also might have.. let's put AI in the name and sell it twice the price" Anyway, when you start asking what AI is doing there, you'll realize it's just a simple sensor reading and thresholding (which AI is all about) I can't imagine a product with true AI - what is true AI? :)
resonious 2y ago
Yup. I've been seeing older products that I've used for awhile suddenly claim that they are "AI-powered" when I've never once used an AI feature of theirs (and often didn't even know they had one). Does not instill confidence.
Iulioh 2y ago
Not only. It it's a "real AI" (and by that i mean ChatGPT) it means that not more than a year later it will need a subscription to work.
- theGeatZhopa 2y ago
  What is real AI :) it's all ML. Chatgpt is just a flavor of ML called (attention? transformer?) LLM. But, you're right. It's the best and clearest bet you can bet on. you can't lose: Later it will need a subscription.
  - Iulioh 2y ago
    ""normal ML"" could be run on device or be so small to not be a burden on the service provider (think mail filtering) and not need a subscription, so by "real AI" i mean chatbots as that's the marketing to consumers for now
    - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
      Yeah the chatbots will ruin us. The energy consumption is way more than in mining bitcoins. But also, "normal ML" is also a source for earnings and a reason to want higher prices (and subscription) by other means. There was a washing machine that automatically adjusted the volume of the washing agent added, depending on the types of clothes and grade if dirtyness. But, the washing agent was only available in capsules, which are higher in price. So, why one would want that? IDK. But ok, as time go by, the technology will be updated.

vladvasiliu 2y ago

I never really bought the whole AI marketing spiels either, but I kinda understood the angle. They don't really know what they're selling, etc. But what really shocked me, was when people on the client side are asking suppliers if they're not working on anything AI-based, since everyone is doing it. But those people did always give me the vibe you're talking about: "they don't know what to do and are desperate". I guess my point is that maybe, at least some of the time, marketers aren't that stupid.

lazide 2y ago
Trying to convince your customers they’re stupid for wanting what they want is generally a pretty dumb marketing/sales tactic.
theGeatZhopa 2y ago
I didn't want to express that marketeers are stupid or so. In the opposite, it's an art to sell features. But having a product, like the mentioned washing machine in some thread here, and putting AI into the name is a sign of desperation for me. "We need a feature every other also might have.. let's put AI in the name and sell it twice the price" Anyway, when you start asking what AI is doing there, you'll realize it's just a simple sensor reading and thresholding (which AI is all about) I can't imagine a product with true AI - what is true AI? :)

resonious 2y ago

Yup. I've been seeing older products that I've used for awhile suddenly claim that they are "AI-powered" when I've never once used an AI feature of theirs (and often didn't even know they had one). Does not instill confidence.

Iulioh 2y ago

Not only. It it's a "real AI" (and by that i mean ChatGPT) it means that not more than a year later it will need a subscription to work.

theGeatZhopa 2y ago
What is real AI :) it's all ML. Chatgpt is just a flavor of ML called (attention? transformer?) LLM. But, you're right. It's the best and clearest bet you can bet on. you can't lose: Later it will need a subscription.
- Iulioh 2y ago
  ""normal ML"" could be run on device or be so small to not be a burden on the service provider (think mail filtering) and not need a subscription, so by "real AI" i mean chatbots as that's the marketing to consumers for now
  - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
    Yeah the chatbots will ruin us. The energy consumption is way more than in mining bitcoins. But also, "normal ML" is also a source for earnings and a reason to want higher prices (and subscription) by other means. There was a washing machine that automatically adjusted the volume of the washing agent added, depending on the types of clothes and grade if dirtyness. But, the washing agent was only available in capsules, which are higher in price. So, why one would want that? IDK. But ok, as time go by, the technology will be updated.