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Even their washing machines have AI!

synicalx 2y ago
Can't wait for my washing machine to be able to make an API call to OpenAI so it can worked out how best to tackle the stain on my undies. We really are living in the future.
- jajko 2y ago
  No internet / dns fail / openai failed patching and bam! Whole world wears dirty clothes. I hope EU will make this illegal if it isnt yet, they seem to be the only real power these days not giving a fuck about revenues of corporations in the first place when deciding stuff.
  - netsharc 2y ago
    "This stain again, week after week? Ordering fibrous cereal from Amazon...".
maxbond 2y ago
I've seen this and it's very silly. Every step where the machine makes an automated decision, it displays a message like, "using AI to xyz." I have to imagine the "AI" to determine how long the cycle should be is a linear function of some metric like weight. But I suppose you could view that as a neural network with a single neuron.
- animuchan 2y ago
  Moreover, any hardcoded behavior can be seen as a neural net with no neurons! Maybe the real AI was the friends we made along the way.
computerthings 2y ago
> AI Bubble which mixes water, air and detergent to create a cleansing foam that seeps into your fabrics -- https://soyacincau.com/2024/05/15/samsung-bespoke-ai-laundry-combo-washer-dryer-malaysia/ https://soyacincau.com/2024/05/15/samsung-bespoke-ai-laundry... If you can't defeat the people talking about the AI bubble, join them?
- Animats 2y ago
  "AI Bubble which mixes water, air and detergent..." It's so Samsung. Back when Internet of Things was a thing, I went to an IoT meeting in SF where one of the speakers was from Samsung. They had a refrigerator with a tablet built into the door. The tablet and refrigerator shared nothing but power, and cost more than a comparable refrigerator and tablet separately. I asked the speaker why they built this, and was told that there's a fraction of the market that likes to show off their kitchens who will buy this stuff.
  - yurishimo 2y ago
    It's still very much a product that you can buy. One of the "features" was being able to look into the fridge with an inward facing camera from your phone while you're away from home. Potentially useful if you really can't remember what you have while at the grocery store. One problem... it only showed 3 shelves on the fridge side. You couldn't PTZ the camera around the entire fridge. No way to see the stuff stored in the door. No way to check the freezer, etc. Most reviewers concluded it was practically useless.
    - netsharc 2y ago
      I can imagine a fridge with an (outside) camera that can take a picture of your groceries (make the user hold it for a fraction of a second in front of the camera) and categorize it as well as see its expiration date (or estimate, e.g. for fruits and vegetables) would actually be useful, considering we throw away so much food. And if it can't identify the item, it can even ask the user to identify the item ("pasta I made last night") and how long they think it will last. If it's made by a committee of idiots, it will just repeatedly say "Cannot identify item. Please name this item."... if it's actually good it will just have different beep tones for different states (Beep A: "All good", beep B: "Can't identify item", beep C: "Can't see expiration date", etc)
    - photonthug 2y ago
      But this is a great example of something no one has ever asked for. Even the suckers buying it never wanted it, they would just buy “top of the line” no matter what useless “features” that means. For corporations I’m sure they like whatever cash they squeeze out of whatever percent of people have this “get the most expensive offering” strategy but it seems likely the end goal is more about gradually normalizing more expensive offerings at all levels. After you get there, you can start removing useful things that justified cost originally (like headphone jacks) to push whatever else people now need (ear buds). Smart phones are the obvious example of this sort of thing, where major carriers will basically force customers to get use either the latest iPhone or android, and then act like your existing phone is a potato and you must be crazy to think that they could make it ring. Not just a push to require smart phones but the latest ridiculously large one with features no one cares about, at a price point that it becomes a major investment for many households, and now needs a payment plan. whereas logic,progress and naive expectations of capitalism would suggest that such things would be getting cheaper, and represent a *smaller* chunk of your monthly wages. See also the similar situation with everything from smart tvs to toasters. I try to enjoy experiences with flashlights and paper maps while these things are still available. If toothpaste were invented today it would be engineered with a short shelf life and require a subscription

Can't wait for my washing machine to be able to make an API call to OpenAI so it can worked out how best to tackle the stain on my undies. We really are living in the future.

jajko 2y ago
No internet / dns fail / openai failed patching and bam! Whole world wears dirty clothes. I hope EU will make this illegal if it isnt yet, they seem to be the only real power these days not giving a fuck about revenues of corporations in the first place when deciding stuff.
- netsharc 2y ago
  "This stain again, week after week? Ordering fibrous cereal from Amazon...".

maxbond 2y ago

I've seen this and it's very silly. Every step where the machine makes an automated decision, it displays a message like, "using AI to xyz." I have to imagine the "AI" to determine how long the cycle should be is a linear function of some metric like weight. But I suppose you could view that as a neural network with a single neuron.

animuchan 2y ago
Moreover, any hardcoded behavior can be seen as a neural net with no neurons! Maybe the real AI was the friends we made along the way.

computerthings 2y ago

> AI Bubble which mixes water, air and detergent to create a cleansing foam that seeps into your fabrics -- https://soyacincau.com/2024/05/15/samsung-bespoke-ai-laundry-combo-washer-dryer-malaysia/ https://soyacincau.com/2024/05/15/samsung-bespoke-ai-laundry... If you can't defeat the people talking about the AI bubble, join them?

Animats 2y ago
"AI Bubble which mixes water, air and detergent..." It's so Samsung. Back when Internet of Things was a thing, I went to an IoT meeting in SF where one of the speakers was from Samsung. They had a refrigerator with a tablet built into the door. The tablet and refrigerator shared nothing but power, and cost more than a comparable refrigerator and tablet separately. I asked the speaker why they built this, and was told that there's a fraction of the market that likes to show off their kitchens who will buy this stuff.
- yurishimo 2y ago
  It's still very much a product that you can buy. One of the "features" was being able to look into the fridge with an inward facing camera from your phone while you're away from home. Potentially useful if you really can't remember what you have while at the grocery store. One problem... it only showed 3 shelves on the fridge side. You couldn't PTZ the camera around the entire fridge. No way to see the stuff stored in the door. No way to check the freezer, etc. Most reviewers concluded it was practically useless.
  - netsharc 2y ago
    I can imagine a fridge with an (outside) camera that can take a picture of your groceries (make the user hold it for a fraction of a second in front of the camera) and categorize it as well as see its expiration date (or estimate, e.g. for fruits and vegetables) would actually be useful, considering we throw away so much food. And if it can't identify the item, it can even ask the user to identify the item ("pasta I made last night") and how long they think it will last. If it's made by a committee of idiots, it will just repeatedly say "Cannot identify item. Please name this item."... if it's actually good it will just have different beep tones for different states (Beep A: "All good", beep B: "Can't identify item", beep C: "Can't see expiration date", etc)
  - photonthug 2y ago
    But this is a great example of something no one has ever asked for. Even the suckers buying it never wanted it, they would just buy “top of the line” no matter what useless “features” that means. For corporations I’m sure they like whatever cash they squeeze out of whatever percent of people have this “get the most expensive offering” strategy but it seems likely the end goal is more about gradually normalizing more expensive offerings at all levels. After you get there, you can start removing useful things that justified cost originally (like headphone jacks) to push whatever else people now need (ear buds). Smart phones are the obvious example of this sort of thing, where major carriers will basically force customers to get use either the latest iPhone or android, and then act like your existing phone is a potato and you must be crazy to think that they could make it ring. Not just a push to require smart phones but the latest ridiculously large one with features no one cares about, at a price point that it becomes a major investment for many households, and now needs a payment plan. whereas logic,progress and naive expectations of capitalism would suggest that such things would be getting cheaper, and represent a *smaller* chunk of your monthly wages. See also the similar situation with everything from smart tvs to toasters. I try to enjoy experiences with flashlights and paper maps while these things are still available. If toothpaste were invented today it would be engineered with a short shelf life and require a subscription