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>but death isn't a system death is entropy. do you know of a system without entropy? >or organism... boy are you going to be surprised when you answer that k
by fsckboy 2y ago
>but death isn't a system
death is entropy. do you know of a system without entropy?
>or organism...
boy are you going to be surprised when you answer that knock on the door, eh?
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoIsn’t it definitely not an organism? If death is the inevitable process from order to disorder, isn’t it deeply a-systemic at its core? If it were a system, it would also eventually have to end.
- hobs 2y agoArguably it does, the heat death of the universe option would spell the end of entropy, and the end of death (unless you believe in a conformal cyclic universe)
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoActually yeah fair enough; I’ll grant that death may be a system.
- _yb2s 2y agoA complex dynamic system has a large number of working parts, and responds in specific ways to inputs and stressors. It just doesn't make sense to think of death itself as a "complex system." They are certainly related- I think death could be seen as an event that irreversibly dismantles a complex system in some way, such that the parts no longer function together as a system.
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoI was thinking of systems more as just processes that have low-entropy behavior, i.e. those that are predictable in some meaningful way. If one takes the process of death, which is really a behavior of any low-entropy system, to be its own object, I do think that object would be a system under my definition. I agree that yours does not come to the same conclusion, and perhaps my definition of system is too broad.
- _yb2s 2y agoI didn't say that complex systems can't die, I said death itself is not a complex system. Antifragility is specifically a property or behavior of a complex system. "Death" can't anymore be antifragile than the color red can be.