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New Orleans is one of the greatest cities in the world and definitely has access to experienced welders, this argument makes no sense to me.

_moof 2y ago
Not only that but Stennis Space Center is nearby. It's no Cape Canaveral but it's not as though aerospace is completely unheard of there.
- selimthegrim 2y ago
  Stennis is not getting its personnel from local grad schools.
  - _moof 2y ago
    Welders don't go to grad school so I'm not sure what we're talking about here.
    - selimthegrim 2y ago
      Stennis isn’t going to keep welders around. Those are the design and engineering support personnel.
inetknght 2y ago
> this argument makes no sense to me Might want to remember that experienced welders demand stronger compensation. Can't have that compensation going to the wrong people, though. Boeing can't survive as a business if it had to compensate fairly!
Nicholas_C 2y ago
There have to be a lot of welders in that region due to the oil and gas and heavy industry. If there aren't enough welders there I don't know what area would have enough. As others have said, maybe they're not paying them enough?
- RogerL 2y ago
  Aerospace welding is a different beast. Vast/tedious documentation requirements, experience with dissimilar metals, welding gold (think about the cost of splatter with that one), extremely tolerance requirements, etc. Some welding jobs are done under a microscope. You don't fix welds, you through everything away and try again. Very experienced welders report a long and steep learning curve. Hiring somebody from a different industry means investing significantly in their skill set, and waiting a decade for their skills to ramp up. There is also a significant tech component, in that a lot is being automated, where the welder is setting up the robot, inspecting results, and so on, and only doing manual welds where the robot cannot achieve what is needed. Meanwhile bog standard pipe welding often pays better and the jobs are easier to get with far fewer requirements.
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_moof 2y ago

Not only that but Stennis Space Center is nearby. It's no Cape Canaveral but it's not as though aerospace is completely unheard of there.

selimthegrim 2y ago
Stennis is not getting its personnel from local grad schools.
- _moof 2y ago
  Welders don't go to grad school so I'm not sure what we're talking about here.
  - selimthegrim 2y ago
    Stennis isn’t going to keep welders around. Those are the design and engineering support personnel.

inetknght 2y ago

> this argument makes no sense to me Might want to remember that experienced welders demand stronger compensation. Can't have that compensation going to the wrong people, though. Boeing can't survive as a business if it had to compensate fairly!

Nicholas_C 2y ago

There have to be a lot of welders in that region due to the oil and gas and heavy industry. If there aren't enough welders there I don't know what area would have enough. As others have said, maybe they're not paying them enough?

RogerL 2y ago
Aerospace welding is a different beast. Vast/tedious documentation requirements, experience with dissimilar metals, welding gold (think about the cost of splatter with that one), extremely tolerance requirements, etc. Some welding jobs are done under a microscope. You don't fix welds, you through everything away and try again. Very experienced welders report a long and steep learning curve. Hiring somebody from a different industry means investing significantly in their skill set, and waiting a decade for their skills to ramp up. There is also a significant tech component, in that a lot is being automated, where the welder is setting up the robot, inspecting results, and so on, and only doing manual welds where the robot cannot achieve what is needed. Meanwhile bog standard pipe welding often pays better and the jobs are easier to get with far fewer requirements.

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