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Another view: a lot of people were laid off at the beginning of 2020. To prevent a total meltdown, unemployment assistance was made unusually robust (for the US

Another view: a lot of people were laid off at the beginning of 2020. To prevent a total meltdown, unemployment assistance was made unusually robust (for the US). With the stimulus, it was not unheard of for people to be getting more in unemployment than they'd ever made actually working. Likewise, PPP loans meant that anyone with even a trivial business and a handful of employees could apply for support. The "Great Resignation" (a clever bit of branding; people were moving to better jobs, not resigning) coincided with that easy money drying up. Businesses had to actually start making money again, as did workers (many of whom re-skilled during the pandemic). Higher-than-normal employment migration might have just been people coming out of unemployment, gig work, and whatever jobs they took just to ride out the crisis. Also, high inflation coincided with the increased numbers at many companies. The layoffs came after inflation started to cool (probably an important contributor to stagnating wage growth), and probably were related to the Fed continuing to raise interest rates and putting off a pivot to dropping them until... Well, they still haven't done a cut, yet.

eltoxo 2y ago
It is also the normal state of the economy to not job jump because it is normally hard to get a job. The far from equilibrium state was software jobs with 0% interest rates the last decade. Then you have people who entered the workforce during this time believing this is how things have always been and always will be. Surprise! That was a temporary state we are never going back to in your lifetime. It is like when I was young, every song had to have a guitar solo. To hear a song with no guitar solo was so weird. I assumed things would always be this way. Neither the guitar solo or the 2016 software job market is ever coming back the same way it use to be.
- Jensson 2y ago
  > it is normally hard to get a job. It isn't normal for it to be hard to get a job, what is hard is to get a better job than you have now since you worked hard to find that job.
  - brailsafe 2y ago
    > It isn't normal for it to be hard to get a job, what is hard is to get a better job than you have now since you worked hard to find that job. That seems like a weirdly narrow perspective. Seems like it entirely depends on every aspect of circumstance, micro, and macro economic, as well as all facets of personal luck, industry, roll of the dice at birth. This is true of everything, not just the job search. Every one of my friends for example has a job and has no reason to think it's hard to get one, but they only know one guy in software, and my perspective for the last 8 years has been it's hard to find a job. Meanwhile, they're all lonely and desperate, struggle to form long term connections, and this is a sentiment shared by many on their 30s atm, but not me, it's normally easy. I'm sure when I get my next one, there's enough likelihood of meeting a few people who've been employed their whole life but haven't made any new close friends since school, to wit we'd reach a similar difference in perspective. It's my impression though that it's nearly always been easier to get a better or different job than it is to get a job without one, which informs the general cliche, however factually true it is, that it's better to look for a new job while you have one.

eltoxo 2y ago

It is also the normal state of the economy to not job jump because it is normally hard to get a job. The far from equilibrium state was software jobs with 0% interest rates the last decade. Then you have people who entered the workforce during this time believing this is how things have always been and always will be. Surprise! That was a temporary state we are never going back to in your lifetime. It is like when I was young, every song had to have a guitar solo. To hear a song with no guitar solo was so weird. I assumed things would always be this way. Neither the guitar solo or the 2016 software job market is ever coming back the same way it use to be.

Jensson 2y ago
> it is normally hard to get a job. It isn't normal for it to be hard to get a job, what is hard is to get a better job than you have now since you worked hard to find that job.
- brailsafe 2y ago
  > It isn't normal for it to be hard to get a job, what is hard is to get a better job than you have now since you worked hard to find that job. That seems like a weirdly narrow perspective. Seems like it entirely depends on every aspect of circumstance, micro, and macro economic, as well as all facets of personal luck, industry, roll of the dice at birth. This is true of everything, not just the job search. Every one of my friends for example has a job and has no reason to think it's hard to get one, but they only know one guy in software, and my perspective for the last 8 years has been it's hard to find a job. Meanwhile, they're all lonely and desperate, struggle to form long term connections, and this is a sentiment shared by many on their 30s atm, but not me, it's normally easy. I'm sure when I get my next one, there's enough likelihood of meeting a few people who've been employed their whole life but haven't made any new close friends since school, to wit we'd reach a similar difference in perspective. It's my impression though that it's nearly always been easier to get a better or different job than it is to get a job without one, which informs the general cliche, however factually true it is, that it's better to look for a new job while you have one.