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Have you seen FSD 12.5.1.3?
by aantix 2y ago
Have you seen FSD 12.5.1.3?
- EcommerceFlow 2y agoHe obviously hasn't. The tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so and blow out the competition. One factor not discussed often is how much smoother FSD is compared to all other self driving. Especially noticeable when going from FSD to the free AutoSteer or GM Supercruise.
- kibwen 2y ago> The tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so FSD has been set to come out in a year or so since 2014. At this point nobody should be foolish enough to give Tesla the benefit of the doubt; if they have a self-driving car, then they'll take legal liability for its actions, and if they won't take legal liability for its actions, they don't have a self-driving car. This is as true for any company as it is for Tesla, although Tesla is the only one who's seen fit to lie about it for a decade.
- aantix 2y ago12.5.1.3 is pretty incredible. Their innovation in this space is accelerating rapidly. I encourage you to watch some of the videos on Twitter. It's here. It's now.
- Glant 2y agoJust watched the first video that shows up on YouTube when searching "12.5.1.3" and it starts with a small compilation of the driver having to take back control before the car hits things. https://youtu.be/TLUdxdS8bcM https://youtu.be/TLUdxdS8bcM
- glaucon 2y ago>The tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so I, for one, will be surprised ... in fact put me down for "very surprised".
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so and blow out the competition 12.5.1.3 is incredible. But it's still Level 3, attempting to do something stupid at least on every trip I've been in one. I think Tesla will figure out Level 4 in the near future. What makes the "year or so" unrealistic is it will have to convince regulators that it's safe. For a variety of reasons, partly legitimate and partly due to Musk's antics, that might be difficult in a lot of the most lucrative markets (and markets where Teslas are). Top comment's estimate for 2030 parity with Waymo et al is more realistic.
- curated4ever 2y agoCorrection: Tesla is Level 2. Not Level 3.
- SkyPuncher 2y agoI test drove a Tesla last fall and was deeply unimpressed with it. It did a few things better than my Ford and Hyundai vehicles, but it was wildly unpredictable when it’d just decide to stop working. That’s a big problem for me.
- cameldrv 2y agoYeah. Have you seen Waymo? Even with 12.5, you have to keep your eyes on the road, and at least once or twice a week, it’s going to do something that would likely cause an accident. If it does, Tesla will blame you for not paying attention. In a Waymo, you sit in the back seat and scroll your phone and it gets you safely to your destination every time. These are not even remotely comparable products.
- aantix 2y agoThey're not remotely comparable problem sets. Tesla's generalized driving algorithm vs Waymo's cherry-picked routes and ideal weather. Tesla is winning. And the gap is getting wider.
- fsociety 2y agoI would bet more in a company who figured out the last 20% in a specific city than a company stuck on the first 80% generally.
- acchow 2y agoWaymo works perfectly fine in the rain. No driver.
- SR2Z 2y agoWaymo does not have cherry picked routes - it has a defined ODD inside which is ANY route can be driven fully unsupervised. This necessarily involves some kind of generalized driving algorithm but more usefully, it gives you a clear goal and distribution to measure against.