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I'm a little confused by the context and comments here. Is Trieve associated with HN at all or is this an independent/third-party offering? Is the Algolia searc

by re 2y ago

I'm a little confused by the context and comments here. Is Trieve associated with HN at all or is this an independent/third-party offering? Is the Algolia search going anywhere? Will the search field on HN still take me to Algolia search or is that changing?

dang 2y ago
It's independent/thirdparty, not officially associated with HN, though Trieve is YC-funded (https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/trieve https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/trieve) and in that sense there's an affiliation. There's no current plan to change HN Search though I wouldn't rule it out. PG often used to integrate recent YC startups into HN in various ways (search as detailed by the OP, but also an SSO startup at one point, a carbon-reduction startup, I forget what else) as a way of giving them a boost and I could imagine us doing that again. (side note: I guess the mental model in my head is that earlier-stage startups are more closely bonded to YC and that as they succeed and expand, there's certainly still a friendly connection but the attachment becomes a bit weaker. For startups that have been around 10+ years, for example, I'm not sure it still makes sense to have frontpage job ads on HN.) The change I'd really like to make to HN Search is to bring the front-end part of it into the HN codebase so the search results can be 'real' HN pages*. It's never been a priority to implement that though, and the Algolia system has been fabulous for a long time. * Funnily enough, I made almost the same point using my pre-dang account back when Algolia was just getting started: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7126635 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7126635. Credit to pvg, who misses nothing, for spotting this. The reply was from Algolia cofounder ndessaigne who is now a group partner at YC! He was good on his word, btw.
- neom 2y ago
  It's YC-aside, anyway. Just from a general founder perspective: there comes a point where repeatability far outpaces any growth hacks you put in place perviously. In that vain, I think it shows exceedingly good sportsmanship towards founders to switch someone who has long established repeatable business to someone who has just found it. If you give someone a chance right as they hit escape velocity PMF, I suspect you provide a considerable tailwind, certainly a very kind thing to do for any founder if you're able.

by re 2y ago

dang 2y ago

It's independent/thirdparty, not officially associated with HN, though Trieve is YC-funded (https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/trieve https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/trieve) and in that sense there's an affiliation. There's no current plan to change HN Search though I wouldn't rule it out. PG often used to integrate recent YC startups into HN in various ways (search as detailed by the OP, but also an SSO startup at one point, a carbon-reduction startup, I forget what else) as a way of giving them a boost and I could imagine us doing that again. (side note: I guess the mental model in my head is that earlier-stage startups are more closely bonded to YC and that as they succeed and expand, there's certainly still a friendly connection but the attachment becomes a bit weaker. For startups that have been around 10+ years, for example, I'm not sure it still makes sense to have frontpage job ads on HN.) The change I'd really like to make to HN Search is to bring the front-end part of it into the HN codebase so the search results can be 'real' HN pages*. It's never been a priority to implement that though, and the Algolia system has been fabulous for a long time. * Funnily enough, I made almost the same point using my pre-dang account back when Algolia was just getting started: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7126635 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7126635. Credit to pvg, who misses nothing, for spotting this. The reply was from Algolia cofounder ndessaigne who is now a group partner at YC! He was good on his word, btw.

neom 2y ago
It's YC-aside, anyway. Just from a general founder perspective: there comes a point where repeatability far outpaces any growth hacks you put in place perviously. In that vain, I think it shows exceedingly good sportsmanship towards founders to switch someone who has long established repeatable business to someone who has just found it. If you give someone a chance right as they hit escape velocity PMF, I suspect you provide a considerable tailwind, certainly a very kind thing to do for any founder if you're able.