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> the book and its various plot points and devices serve essentially as metaphors for almost anything That is interesting. Coincidentally (or not?), I was just

> the book and its various plot points and devices serve essentially as metaphors for almost anything That is interesting. Coincidentally (or not?), I was just thinking about an excellent article about parent-child estrangement that begins like this: Members of estranged parents' forums often say their children never gave them any reason for the estrangement, then turn around and reveal that their children did tell them why. But the reasons their children give—the infamous missing reasons—are missing. Apparently, such reasons are a good example of antimemetic ideas in real life.

Terr_ 2y ago
> an excellent article about parent-child estrangement Previously featured on HN, submission with most comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28231239 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28231239
BiteCode_dev 2y ago
Can confirm, lived exactly that situation. I think you can generalize it about any information that would shatter your identity. It's the reason some people will tell you Arch Linux worked perfectly on their machine despite having plenty of problems. The reason why people adopting a religion, a diet or new sexuality will probably not tell you if they are unhappy about the consequences. Graham did say we should keep our identity small: https://paulgraham.com/identity.html https://paulgraham.com/identity.html
- jiiam 2y ago
  > It's the reason some people will tell you Arch Linux worked perfectly on their machine despite having plenty of problems. I feel personally attacked
  - DiscourseFan 2y ago
    Its all fun and games until your computer is bricked because you missed an update
    - Mordisquitos 2y ago
      But that's when the real fun starts!
- sapphicsnail 2y ago
  I don't know if the issue is identity as much as it is the cost of making the decision. All of those things are difficult to change. It's sort of like the sunk cost fallacy. When having sensitive conversations I think it's important to consider how much it would cost someone to shift their belief.
  - BiteCode_dev 2y ago
    Mormonism is not hard to change, it takes 5 minutes to install, all the hardware is supported, and I never had any problem with it. Plus I lost weight.

Terr_ 2y ago

> an excellent article about parent-child estrangement Previously featured on HN, submission with most comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28231239 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28231239

BiteCode_dev 2y ago

Can confirm, lived exactly that situation. I think you can generalize it about any information that would shatter your identity. It's the reason some people will tell you Arch Linux worked perfectly on their machine despite having plenty of problems. The reason why people adopting a religion, a diet or new sexuality will probably not tell you if they are unhappy about the consequences. Graham did say we should keep our identity small: https://paulgraham.com/identity.html https://paulgraham.com/identity.html

jiiam 2y ago
> It's the reason some people will tell you Arch Linux worked perfectly on their machine despite having plenty of problems. I feel personally attacked
- DiscourseFan 2y ago
  Its all fun and games until your computer is bricked because you missed an update
  - Mordisquitos 2y ago
    But that's when the real fun starts!
sapphicsnail 2y ago
I don't know if the issue is identity as much as it is the cost of making the decision. All of those things are difficult to change. It's sort of like the sunk cost fallacy. When having sensitive conversations I think it's important to consider how much it would cost someone to shift their belief.
- BiteCode_dev 2y ago
  Mormonism is not hard to change, it takes 5 minutes to install, all the hardware is supported, and I never had any problem with it. Plus I lost weight.