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Reservoir of liquid water found deep in Martian rocks

18 points by _____k 2y ago

_____k 2y ago
Published paper https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121
westurner 2y ago
Article: "Liquid water in the Martian mid-crust" (2024) https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121 - "Mars may host oceans’ worth of water deep underground" [according to an analysis of seismic data] https://www.planetary.org/articles/mars-may-host-oceans-worth-of-water-deep-underground https://www.planetary.org/articles/mars-may-host-oceans-wort... : > Now, a team of scientists has used Marsquakes — measured by NASA’s InSight lander years ago — to see what lies beneath. Since the way a Marsquake travels depends on the rock it’s passing through, the researchers could back out what Mars’ crust looks like from seismic measurements. They found that the mid-crust, about 10-20 kilometers (6-12 miles) down, may be riddled with cracks and pores filled with water. A rough estimate predicts these cracks could hold enough water to cover all of Mars with an ocean 1-2 kilometers (0.6-1.2 miles) deep > [...] This reservoir could have percolated down through nooks and crannies billions of years ago, only stopping at huge depths where the pressure would seal off any cracks. The same process happens on our planet — but unlike Mars, Earth’s plate tectonics cycles this water back up to the surface > [...] “It would be very challenging,” Wright said. Only a few projects have ever bored so deep into Earth’s crust, and each one was an intensive undertaking. Replicating that effort on another planet would take lots of infrastructure, Wright goes on, and lots of water. How much water does drilling take on Earth?
- ggus 2y ago
  Water is used to displace debris and to carry it up to the surface. A cylinder of 30cm diameter and 10km deep would hold around 700k litres.
  - westurner 2y ago
    1 US gal = 3.785 litres 700k litres = 0.184920437 million US gallons "How much water does the typical hydraulically fractured well require?" https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-much-water-does-typical-hydraulically-fractured-well-require https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-much-water-does-typical-hydrau... : > Water use per well can be anywhere from about 1.5 million gallons to about 16 million gallons https://www.epa.gov/watersense/statistics-and-facts https://www.epa.gov/watersense/statistics-and-facts : > Each American uses an average of 82 gallons of water a day at home (USGS, Estimated Use of Water in the United States in 2015). So, 1m gal / 82 gal/person/day = 12,195 person/days of water. Camping guidelines suggests 1-2 gallons of water per person per day. 1m gal / 2 gal/person/day = 500,000 person/days of water The 2016 Mars NatGeo series predicts dynamics of water scarcity on Mars. Water on Mars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars
floxy 2y ago
How much does this finding increase the likelihood of finding life on Mars? Liquid water in cracks sounds like a positive. But then what energy source could there be? No light for photosynthesis 6 miles down. No hydrothermal vent like things.
mmooss 2y ago
From the paper, here is the core of the research: We use rock physics models and Bayesian inversion to identify combinations of lithology, liquid water saturation, porosity, and pore shape consistent with the constrained mid-crust (∼11.5 to 20 km depths) seismic velocities and gravity near the InSight lander. A mid-crust composed of fractured igneous rocks saturated with liquid water best explains the existing data. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121

18 points by _____k 2y ago

Published paper https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121

Article: "Liquid water in the Martian mid-crust" (2024) https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121 - "Mars may host oceans’ worth of water deep underground" [according to an analysis of seismic data] https://www.planetary.org/articles/mars-may-host-oceans-worth-of-water-deep-underground https://www.planetary.org/articles/mars-may-host-oceans-wort... : > Now, a team of scientists has used Marsquakes — measured by NASA’s InSight lander years ago — to see what lies beneath. Since the way a Marsquake travels depends on the rock it’s passing through, the researchers could back out what Mars’ crust looks like from seismic measurements. They found that the mid-crust, about 10-20 kilometers (6-12 miles) down, may be riddled with cracks and pores filled with water. A rough estimate predicts these cracks could hold enough water to cover all of Mars with an ocean 1-2 kilometers (0.6-1.2 miles) deep > [...] This reservoir could have percolated down through nooks and crannies billions of years ago, only stopping at huge depths where the pressure would seal off any cracks. The same process happens on our planet — but unlike Mars, Earth’s plate tectonics cycles this water back up to the surface > [...] “It would be very challenging,” Wright said. Only a few projects have ever bored so deep into Earth’s crust, and each one was an intensive undertaking. Replicating that effort on another planet would take lots of infrastructure, Wright goes on, and lots of water. How much water does drilling take on Earth?

ggus 2y ago
Water is used to displace debris and to carry it up to the surface. A cylinder of 30cm diameter and 10km deep would hold around 700k litres.
- westurner 2y ago
  1 US gal = 3.785 litres 700k litres = 0.184920437 million US gallons "How much water does the typical hydraulically fractured well require?" https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-much-water-does-typical-hydraulically-fractured-well-require https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-much-water-does-typical-hydrau... : > Water use per well can be anywhere from about 1.5 million gallons to about 16 million gallons https://www.epa.gov/watersense/statistics-and-facts https://www.epa.gov/watersense/statistics-and-facts : > Each American uses an average of 82 gallons of water a day at home (USGS, Estimated Use of Water in the United States in 2015). So, 1m gal / 82 gal/person/day = 12,195 person/days of water. Camping guidelines suggests 1-2 gallons of water per person per day. 1m gal / 2 gal/person/day = 500,000 person/days of water The 2016 Mars NatGeo series predicts dynamics of water scarcity on Mars. Water on Mars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars

floxy 2y ago

How much does this finding increase the likelihood of finding life on Mars? Liquid water in cracks sounds like a positive. But then what energy source could there be? No light for photosynthesis 6 miles down. No hydrothermal vent like things.

mmooss 2y ago

From the paper, here is the core of the research: We use rock physics models and Bayesian inversion to identify combinations of lithology, liquid water saturation, porosity, and pore shape consistent with the constrained mid-crust (∼11.5 to 20 km depths) seismic velocities and gravity near the InSight lander. A mid-crust composed of fractured igneous rocks saturated with liquid water best explains the existing data. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2409983121