> This is the point that I was originally disputing :) I did suspect we were at odds with each other somehow! > requires breaking things up into smaller piece

> This is the point that I was originally disputing :) I did suspect we were at odds with each other somehow! > requires breaking things up into smaller pieces (agile, or engineer mindset), and it's orthogonal to your goal vs process character Agreed. > And again, goal-oriented people do not necessarily dread all of the process I think much of what I'm saying is that achieving 'great' things probably entails a long road. Management style aside, I think loving the process would greatly improve your odds of going the distance without burnout during the inevitable development hell (e.g., tasks that take longer than anticipated, unanticipated tasks, unanticipated hurdles, etc.) of doing something novel or overwhelming in scale – which I think all 'great' things would have one or both of those characters. But I'm happy to agree to disagree here, and I thank you for the insightful discussion.