> ...being process-minded is not only as likely but actually more likely to compel someone to achieve great things. This is the point that I was originally dis

> ...being process-minded is not only as likely but actually more likely to compel someone to achieve great things. This is the point that I was originally disputing :) And it is where I disagree: I find the "achieving great things" requires breaking things up into smaller pieces (agile, or engineer mindset), and it's orthogonal to your goal vs process character. Basically, my counter is that just like badly managed[$] goal-oriented people might suffer through a long process to the goal (and thus give up), badly managed process-oriented people might enjoy the ride too much to not care about the end result. A common saying of "work smart, not hard" kinda supports that too. [$] I am using "managed" here liberally: they could be self-managed, for instance. What you need to do to achieve both small but especially big things is to be smart and manage yourself well along with having enough motivation to do it. And the source of motivation is where I think the only difference is: neither goal nor process does warrant one having enough of it, but they are sources of it for different people. And again, goal-oriented people do not necessarily dread all of the process, it's just that they get most of their motivation from achieving things. And certainly process-oriented people enjoy achieving things, even if they get motivated with the road as well.