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> there isn't much evidence they care about CO2 at all Their government explicitly has carbon reduction and measures to mitigate climate change as a priority,
by berdario 2y ago
> there isn't much evidence they care about CO2 at all
Their government explicitly has carbon reduction and measures to mitigate climate change as a priority, it's not a secret.
https://meeb.sz.gov.cn/hdjl/ywzsk/fsaq/content/post_10828605.html https://meeb.sz.gov.cn/hdjl/ywzsk/fsaq/content/post_10828605...
> 核能的安全健康可持续发展有利于提高能源供给能力,有利于调整我国能源结构,降低对煤炭、天然气、原油的依存度。
> The safe, healthy and sustainable development of nuclear energy is conducive to improving energy supply capacity, adjusting my country's energy structure and reducing dependence on coal, natural gas and crude oil.
This is just the first link I found, there's tons more of course, since becoming a "Ecological civilization" is one of their Communist Party tenets:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_civilization https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_civilization
It was already obvious years ago that they were on a good track for success:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-green-revolution-is-quietly-succeeding-b1b12e95 https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-green-revolution-is-quie...
(of course, they are succeeding: CO2 emissions are decreasing (!) or anyhow flat (over the whole of 2024), despite the growing energy demands: https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-chinas-co2-falls-1-in-q2-2024-in-first-quarterly-drop-since-covid-19/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-chinas-co2-falls-1-in-q... )
but it's at least since the 18th CPC National Congress that the Communist Party is outspoken about the future being low-carbon, e.g.
http://www.qstheory.cn/dukan/qs/2019-11/01/c_1125178869.htm http://www.qstheory.cn/dukan/qs/2019-11/01/c_1125178869.htm
> 然而一段时期对煤炭的过度依赖和粗放开采,导致产业结构失衡、生态破坏严重、经济一度断崖式下滑等结果,给山西人民带来切肤之痛。
> 指出,能源低碳发展关乎人类未来;中国高度重视能源低碳发展,积极推进能源消费、供给、技术、体制革命;中国愿同国际社会一道,全方位加强能源合作,维护能源安全,应对气候变化,保护生态环境,促进可持续发展,更好造福世界各国人民。
> over-reliance on coal and extensive mining for a period of time led to an imbalance in the industrial structure, serious ecological damage, and a cliff-like economic decline, which brought pain to the people of Shanxi.
> pointing out that low-carbon energy development is related to the future of mankind; China attaches great importance to low-carbon energy development and actively promotes energy consumption, supply, technology, and system revolution; China is willing to work with the international community to strengthen energy cooperation in all aspects, maintain energy security, respond to climate change, protect the ecological environment, promote sustainable development, and better benefit the people of all countries in the world.
- zetsurin 2y agoIn the west there have been environmental commitments since the at least 1990s. The governments just seem to mostly ignore those commitments. So it's pretty easy for westerners to not believe commitments made by other governments.
- teractiveodular 2y agoAction matters more than speech. "Democracy", "freedom", "equality", "justice" and the "rule of law" are also Core Socialist Values of the CCP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Socialist_Values https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Socialist_Values Fortunately, unlikely democracy and the rule of law, the CCP appears to actually care about cheap energy and rolling back obvious pollution in major cities.
- berdario 2y agoYou're responding in a thread in which people are discounting the "actions", because "the Communist Party doesn't really want to decrease CO2" I demonstrated that their words match their actions (ecology and energy policy wise)
- AnthonyMouse 2y agoThey don't though. If they cared about CO2 then the amount of CO2 they emit would be decreasing over time, because that would be their priority over e.g. rapid growth or cost considerations. If they wanted to they could be shutting down coal plants and replacing them with solar or nuclear instead of building new coal burners in addition to solar, but they're not.
- ZeroGravitas 2y agoIt is decreasing though. It's hard to put a precise date on it but some think it happened in 2023, some 2024, the official goal is peaking by 2030 (note they've hit other renewables goals by about 7 years) but generally it's agreed that it's flattened and about to decline, if it hasn't already, due to rapid renewable rollout.