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Every day we stray further from using the web to deliver documents.

by xk_id 2y ago

simonw 2y ago
It's pretty clear at this point that the web also being a universal zero-installation-required sandboxed application runtime is a much more exciting vision than if it was restricted to only documents.
- middleendian2 2y ago
  Why, because you can charge for cramming 50 MB of tracking JavaScript down the pipe to people paying $10 a month for the privilege?
  - simonw 2y ago
    Only if you suck at making web apps. (Admittedly a lot of people suck at making web apps.)
- xk_id 2y ago
  I used to feel a lot more excitement in 2000 than i feel now.
  - create-account 2y ago
    In year 2000, we were around 24 years younger and the web was still an undeveloped plot of land for kids to play. Now, it’s mostly a corporate canvas for economic transactions, like the rest of the human experience in the west
    - steve1977 2y ago
      The dot-com bubble would like to have a word with you.
  - spankalee 2y ago
    That honestly sounds like a you issue, not a browser issue. I would have killed for the capabilities web browsers have now back in 2000. I was forced to build Java applets to get anything close, and the user experience sucked.
    - xk_id 2y ago
      But the user experience sucks far more today. People are opting out. That’s how bad it is.
    - willywanker 2y ago
      Websites today offer little over the ones from 15-20 years ago functionality-wise. In fact they have less features in the name of 'simplicity' that results in their being bloated memory hogs with javascript.
  - deleted 2y ago
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- layer8 2y ago
  It’s maybe an exciting vision, but the existing web tech stack is woefully mismatched for that.
- JohnFen 2y ago
  > is a much more exciting vision "Exciting" doesn't necessarily mean "good", though!
- datavirtue 2y ago
  All that stuff is hacked in, and that fact constantly reads it's head. So much that we are still debating solutions thirty years later.
steve1977 2y ago
And from using proper native frameworks for desktop applications.
Hammershaft 2y ago
It shows that web technologies were not designed to do what they do today.

Every day we stray further from using the web to deliver documents.

by xk_id 2y ago

Every day we stray further from using the web to deliver documents.

It's pretty clear at this point that the web also being a universal zero-installation-required sandboxed application runtime is a much more exciting vision than if it was restricted to only documents.

middleendian2 2y ago
Why, because you can charge for cramming 50 MB of tracking JavaScript down the pipe to people paying $10 a month for the privilege?
- simonw 2y ago
  Only if you suck at making web apps. (Admittedly a lot of people suck at making web apps.)
xk_id 2y ago
I used to feel a lot more excitement in 2000 than i feel now.
- create-account 2y ago
  In year 2000, we were around 24 years younger and the web was still an undeveloped plot of land for kids to play. Now, it’s mostly a corporate canvas for economic transactions, like the rest of the human experience in the west
  - steve1977 2y ago
    The dot-com bubble would like to have a word with you.
- spankalee 2y ago
  That honestly sounds like a you issue, not a browser issue. I would have killed for the capabilities web browsers have now back in 2000. I was forced to build Java applets to get anything close, and the user experience sucked.
  - xk_id 2y ago
    But the user experience sucks far more today. People are opting out. That’s how bad it is.
  - willywanker 2y ago
    Websites today offer little over the ones from 15-20 years ago functionality-wise. In fact they have less features in the name of 'simplicity' that results in their being bloated memory hogs with javascript.
- deleted 2y ago
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layer8 2y ago
It’s maybe an exciting vision, but the existing web tech stack is woefully mismatched for that.
JohnFen 2y ago
> is a much more exciting vision "Exciting" doesn't necessarily mean "good", though!
datavirtue 2y ago
All that stuff is hacked in, and that fact constantly reads it's head. So much that we are still debating solutions thirty years later.

steve1977 2y ago

And from using proper native frameworks for desktop applications.

Hammershaft 2y ago

It shows that web technologies were not designed to do what they do today.