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Easy privacy/identity management per app. Easy payment processing builtin to browser. Easy social that spans apps that we fully control. I should be able to s

by jarsin 2y ago

Easy privacy/identity management per app. Easy payment processing builtin to browser. Easy social that spans apps that we fully control. I should be able to see who my hackernews friends are and if we have both chosen what other apps we have in common. I still can't believe we have to sign up for every single app. Enter all kinds of different payment methods across a variety of payment processors. And are trapped using big tech platforms. The browser is the killer app but none of these browser makers take it to the next level. Its still same as it was since mid 2000's.

fragmede 2y ago
> I still can't believe we have to sign up for every single app. sign in with apple/Google/Facebook/whatever has reduced the number of signups for me. > Enter all kinds of different payment methods across a variety of payment processors apple pay is super convenient - merchant gets my payment and my address, but there's also PayPal and Amazon pay and Shopify pay and stripe link. there's a complaint to be had about the nunnery of choices there are, but that's different from the automation not working. > And are trapped using big tech platforms. can't do anything about that unless you wanna work with crypto, but then you're using crypto. we're not still stuck in the year 2000 unless you choose to be.
- lelanthran 2y ago
  > sign in with apple/Google/Facebook/whatever has reduced the number of signups for me. That's an awfully high-risk solution to having to maintain multiple identities. The last thing I want is to be cut off from my (business) calendar because of something I said in a forum somewhere. Remember back when having your identity tracked across multiple websites was malicious and websites would do their best to perform the tracking surreptitiously. Now it's all different - websites having users lining up to dox themselves. I'm afraid if someone wants to dox many of the online pseudo-anonymous personas I use, they going to have to do all the work to dox me; I'm not lifting a finger to help them, much less actually do it for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnugnf_2CYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnugnf_2CYM
Ajedi32 2y ago
I agree with most of this. > Easy privacy/identity management per app. Now that Passkeys are a thing, browsers could theoretically create an anonymous, ephemeral account for you automatically on any site that requests that. Or alternately/additionally, maybe a "synced localstorage" feature could reduce or eliminate the need to have accounts for many cases. > Easy payment processing builtin to browser. This already exists on mobile and works quite well, though desktop support is a bit lacking. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Payment_Request_API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Payment_Req... > Easy social that spans apps that we fully control User-friendly decentralized social media is an unsolved problem. Maybe if Mastodon or Nostr or Matrix ever overcomes those challenges and starts to take off browsers can start integrating support.

by jarsin 2y ago

fragmede 2y ago

> I still can't believe we have to sign up for every single app. sign in with apple/Google/Facebook/whatever has reduced the number of signups for me. > Enter all kinds of different payment methods across a variety of payment processors apple pay is super convenient - merchant gets my payment and my address, but there's also PayPal and Amazon pay and Shopify pay and stripe link. there's a complaint to be had about the nunnery of choices there are, but that's different from the automation not working. > And are trapped using big tech platforms. can't do anything about that unless you wanna work with crypto, but then you're using crypto. we're not still stuck in the year 2000 unless you choose to be.

lelanthran 2y ago
> sign in with apple/Google/Facebook/whatever has reduced the number of signups for me. That's an awfully high-risk solution to having to maintain multiple identities. The last thing I want is to be cut off from my (business) calendar because of something I said in a forum somewhere. Remember back when having your identity tracked across multiple websites was malicious and websites would do their best to perform the tracking surreptitiously. Now it's all different - websites having users lining up to dox themselves. I'm afraid if someone wants to dox many of the online pseudo-anonymous personas I use, they going to have to do all the work to dox me; I'm not lifting a finger to help them, much less actually do it for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnugnf_2CYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnugnf_2CYM

Ajedi32 2y ago

I agree with most of this. > Easy privacy/identity management per app. Now that Passkeys are a thing, browsers could theoretically create an anonymous, ephemeral account for you automatically on any site that requests that. Or alternately/additionally, maybe a "synced localstorage" feature could reduce or eliminate the need to have accounts for many cases. > Easy payment processing builtin to browser. This already exists on mobile and works quite well, though desktop support is a bit lacking. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Payment_Request_API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Payment_Req... > Easy social that spans apps that we fully control User-friendly decentralized social media is an unsolved problem. Maybe if Mastodon or Nostr or Matrix ever overcomes those challenges and starts to take off browsers can start integrating support.