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The fact that post-modernist/post-structuralists dominate the top spots says something about philosophy in general. A lot of those names thought that the age o

• gizajob 2y ago
  Your point being? Waving the makings of an ad hominem in their direction doesn’t discount their entire philosophies. Postmodernists and post-structuralists are used and cited all across the Arts outside of philosophy, particularly in literary theory.
  • Der_Einzige 2y ago
    A significant portion of the humanities is literally poisoned by Postmodernism/Post-structuralism/Critical Theory. Yes. We call a lot of these fields "Grievance Studies". They're all bunk in the same way that Chiropractors are - despite many "authoritative" insurance companies buying into the scam. Let's open up a random quote from one of the champions of the Pomo movement, Deleuze and Guattari, in their famous work "Anti-oedipus": "we are all handymen: each with his little machines. For every organ-machine, an energy-machine: all the time, flows and interruptions. Judge Schreber has sunbeams in his ass. A solar anus. And rest assured that it works: Judge Schreber feels something, produces something, and is capable of explaining the process theoretically. Something is produced: the effects of a machine, not mere metaphors." You might respond with "Oh this quote is out of context, they're satirizing freud and Freud's reading of Daniel Paul Schreber, a German judge, trying to go beyond him" except that their initial OG champion, Freud, was literally 100% wrong to the point that no one can find ANY experimental evidence for the actual existence of the Oedipus[1] OR Electra[2] Complex or any of the rest of the nonsense that Freud, Jung, Lacan, or any of their disciples peddled through the academy. French post-modernism/post-strcturalism is so incoherent that trying to argue against it is a category error as it makes no claim to exist the same realm as reason (a hegemonic concept ignored by them), rather, it is poetry by another name - and it's particularly poor poetry. The academy would be better off disavowing it, as it's produced nothing of value except an army of unemployable ivory tower elitist "revolutionaries". [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_complex
    • gizajob 2y ago
      I’ll respond with: this doesn’t constitute an argument either.
  • sramsay 2y ago
    Yeah, my first reaction is that this list is more-or-less the philosophy an American lit. scholar would be expected to know. Heavy on continental philosophy, hermeneutics, recastings of traditional metaphysics, neo-Marxism . . . way less Anglo-American analytical stuff, but some.
• defrost 2y ago
  More realistically, a lot of those names got drunk in cafes and signed anything put in front of them: Philippe Sollers later stated in 2001 that "there were so many manifestos, we signed them almost automatically" which has a ring of truth and marks them down as a bit stupid in their youth but not all supporters of removing the age of consent. Sure, some would have but it's not as clear cut as you imply.
  • Der_Einzige 2y ago
    This brings up just how toxic "Situationalist International" was and it's connection/relation to the Post-modernist/Post-Structuralist movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situation_(Sartre) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situation_(Sartre) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_est_interdit_d%27interdire_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_est_interdit_d%27interdire_! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Society_of_the_Spectacle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Society_of_the_Spectacle This stuff almost literally destroyed the french government, they claim so close that Charles de Gualle fled paris: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_68 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_68
    • defrost 2y ago
      Uniquely evil people that almost destroyed Charles de Gaulle who definitely did no wrong and absolutely didn't deserve that? Or, a group of people that reflected parts of the zeitgeist that organically arose in a post war France over run by nazi's, collaboraters, struggle for existence and first hand witnessnes to horror?
    • robwwilliams 2y ago
      The first entry is fascinating but not toxic. The concept of living in an artificial spectacle resonates with me after 10 days of Olympics and what seems like a lifetime of pseudo-news.
• robwwilliams 2y ago
  Not Foucault. Not in Heidegger’s league.