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For ios and android maybe but I doubt for web. Also 12k+ open issues, team layoffs and all founders that left don't brink confidence to flutter. I think also ro

by pzo 2y ago

For ios and android maybe but I doubt for web. Also 12k+ open issues, team layoffs and all founders that left don't brink confidence to flutter. I think also roadmap and progress in last year doesn't look stellar. On the other hand I think flutter lost a lot of benefits comparing to 5 years ago - now we have stable better swift and swiftui and better kotlin with jetpack compose - those support also apple watch, macos, tvos, visions os, Google wear, Google TV and with current jetbrains compose desktops like windows is already stable. React native and web ecosystem also improved a lot in the last year.

mdhb 2y ago
I keep seeing this coming up and I have no idea where it’s coming from like it’s some self reinforcing feedback loop based on just utter bullshit. If I am remembering correctly the headcount on the Futter team literally changed by a single person. Here are some actual real life numbers you can use if you want to gauge the health of the two projects: 1. https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pulse https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pulse 2. https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse Specifically Flutter’s 108 merged pull requests to React Native’s 1 and Flutter’s 330 closed issues to React Native’s 18. Also note that this doesn’t even include their rendering engine which had another 90+ closed pull requests https://github.com/flutter/engine/pulse https://github.com/flutter/engine/pulse The truth of the matter is that Flutter is actually is far better shape both from a technical and open source perspective.
- pzo 2y ago
  I did checked pulse for those on github on regular bases. Change to monthly and notice out of 450commits more than 170 commits are by flutter-engine-autoroll bot just auto updating some packages, then next second user did ~30commits, then you have few another flutter bots with some commits. Then go compare with react native.
  - mdhb 2y ago
    You are cherry picking things here. If this is some ideological thing for you I’m really not interested in having that conversation. The health of the two projects genuinely isn’t close at all. Comparing what they are actually both shipping in terms of features in the last year is two very very different stories.
    - pzo 2y ago
      I'm neither flutter nor react native developer just native mobile dev but evaluating both techs so don't have stake in the game right now. Just showing to other so they can make their own judgement: Flutter monthly pulse: https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse/monthly https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse/monthly "Excluding merges, 83 authors have pushed 451 commits to master and 461 commits to all branches" but: 1st engine-flutter-autoroll (bot with revisions autoroll): 185 commits 2nd zanderso (google employee): 25 commits 3rd ValentilVignal (contributor): 14 commits in top 15 contributors for flutter you have also other bots such as: fluttergithubbot, auto-submit[bot], flutter-pub-roller-bot, dependabot[bot] React Native monthly pulse: https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pulse/monthly https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pulse/monthly "Excluding merges, 84 authors have pushed 437 commits to main and 575 commits to all branches" 1st cipolleschi (meta employee): 92 commits 2nd cortinico (meta employee): 83 commits 3rd NickGerleman (contributor): 45 commits no bots in top 15 contributors Also keep in mind React Native is based on React repo project. On top of that you have a lot of work by community in: - expo https://github.com/expo/expo https://github.com/expo/expo - react native reanimated https://github.com/software-mansion/react-native-reanimated https://github.com/software-mansion/react-native-reanimated - react navigation https://github.com/react-navigation/react-navigation https://github.com/react-navigation/react-navigation - react native skia https://github.com/Shopify/react-native-skia https://github.com/Shopify/react-native-skia All of those packages are highly maintained and are pretty used in all RN projects and considered standard.
      - synergy20 2y ago
        super useful info

by pzo 2y ago

mdhb 2y ago

I keep seeing this coming up and I have no idea where it’s coming from like it’s some self reinforcing feedback loop based on just utter bullshit. If I am remembering correctly the headcount on the Futter team literally changed by a single person. Here are some actual real life numbers you can use if you want to gauge the health of the two projects: 1. https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pulse https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pulse 2. https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse Specifically Flutter’s 108 merged pull requests to React Native’s 1 and Flutter’s 330 closed issues to React Native’s 18. Also note that this doesn’t even include their rendering engine which had another 90+ closed pull requests https://github.com/flutter/engine/pulse https://github.com/flutter/engine/pulse The truth of the matter is that Flutter is actually is far better shape both from a technical and open source perspective.

pzo 2y ago
I did checked pulse for those on github on regular bases. Change to monthly and notice out of 450commits more than 170 commits are by flutter-engine-autoroll bot just auto updating some packages, then next second user did ~30commits, then you have few another flutter bots with some commits. Then go compare with react native.
- mdhb 2y ago
  You are cherry picking things here. If this is some ideological thing for you I’m really not interested in having that conversation. The health of the two projects genuinely isn’t close at all. Comparing what they are actually both shipping in terms of features in the last year is two very very different stories.
  - pzo 2y ago
    I'm neither flutter nor react native developer just native mobile dev but evaluating both techs so don't have stake in the game right now. Just showing to other so they can make their own judgement: Flutter monthly pulse: https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse/monthly https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse/monthly "Excluding merges, 83 authors have pushed 451 commits to master and 461 commits to all branches" but: 1st engine-flutter-autoroll (bot with revisions autoroll): 185 commits 2nd zanderso (google employee): 25 commits 3rd ValentilVignal (contributor): 14 commits in top 15 contributors for flutter you have also other bots such as: fluttergithubbot, auto-submit[bot], flutter-pub-roller-bot, dependabot[bot] React Native monthly pulse: https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pulse/monthly https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pulse/monthly "Excluding merges, 84 authors have pushed 437 commits to main and 575 commits to all branches" 1st cipolleschi (meta employee): 92 commits 2nd cortinico (meta employee): 83 commits 3rd NickGerleman (contributor): 45 commits no bots in top 15 contributors Also keep in mind React Native is based on React repo project. On top of that you have a lot of work by community in: - expo https://github.com/expo/expo https://github.com/expo/expo - react native reanimated https://github.com/software-mansion/react-native-reanimated https://github.com/software-mansion/react-native-reanimated - react navigation https://github.com/react-navigation/react-navigation https://github.com/react-navigation/react-navigation - react native skia https://github.com/Shopify/react-native-skia https://github.com/Shopify/react-native-skia All of those packages are highly maintained and are pretty used in all RN projects and considered standard.
    - synergy20 2y ago
      super useful info