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Only a HN user could twist a text/audio generator to present it as "torment nexus".

by throwaway48540 2y ago

bloopernova 2y ago
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/torment-nexus https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/torment-nexus
- throwaway48540 2y ago
  I know what the quote is about. I don't get how a text/audio generator is relevant to it. Or even AI - all the classic scifi I read sees AI as a positive development, it's only the mainstream action movies that present it as some catastrophe, usually in an even dumber way than the alien invasion movies. Whenever a classic scifi presented AI as part of a catastrophe, it wasn't the AI itself but some imperialist or fascist politician ordering it, not a robot uprising - because that's just dumb. People and governments are the torment nexus, not technology.
  - bee_rider 2y ago
    I don’t think the popular meme is dependent on some cultivated/exclusive understanding of classic sci-fi that excludes stuff like the Terminator movies. Memes by their nature are lowest common denominator. But hey, if you missed the joke by virtue of being too clever and well read, that’s not so bad?
    - throwaway48540 2y ago
      Terminator is pretty good (= fun to watch) as far as action movies go, even though I have a hard time calling it scifi - there's not much science going on, except that there's a robot. But ok, the label is not really important. But using it as some sort of prediction about future is just... Wtf. At least use the scifi stories that the author actually intended to be taken as such (not many of them, and AI is usually what propels the societies leaps forward). This is not about being well read or too clever. Many people actually think this is some sort of torment nexus and that "scifi has proven you shouldn't build it". Well a) it didn't, b) why are you taking advice from fiction designed to sell books/cinema tickets, and c) where's the joke? There are movies about cars transforming to huge humanoid destroyers, and yet nobody claims the next Ford car model is the torment nexus. This is the same. A text/audio generator is never going to do a robot uprising, it's just as likely as your neighbor's Ford destroying your house with its giant fists.

Only a HN user could twist a text/audio generator to present it as "torment nexus".

bloopernova 2y ago

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/torment-nexus https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/torment-nexus

throwaway48540 2y ago
I know what the quote is about. I don't get how a text/audio generator is relevant to it. Or even AI - all the classic scifi I read sees AI as a positive development, it's only the mainstream action movies that present it as some catastrophe, usually in an even dumber way than the alien invasion movies. Whenever a classic scifi presented AI as part of a catastrophe, it wasn't the AI itself but some imperialist or fascist politician ordering it, not a robot uprising - because that's just dumb. People and governments are the torment nexus, not technology.
- bee_rider 2y ago
  I don’t think the popular meme is dependent on some cultivated/exclusive understanding of classic sci-fi that excludes stuff like the Terminator movies. Memes by their nature are lowest common denominator. But hey, if you missed the joke by virtue of being too clever and well read, that’s not so bad?
  - throwaway48540 2y ago
    Terminator is pretty good (= fun to watch) as far as action movies go, even though I have a hard time calling it scifi - there's not much science going on, except that there's a robot. But ok, the label is not really important. But using it as some sort of prediction about future is just... Wtf. At least use the scifi stories that the author actually intended to be taken as such (not many of them, and AI is usually what propels the societies leaps forward). This is not about being well read or too clever. Many people actually think this is some sort of torment nexus and that "scifi has proven you shouldn't build it". Well a) it didn't, b) why are you taking advice from fiction designed to sell books/cinema tickets, and c) where's the joke? There are movies about cars transforming to huge humanoid destroyers, and yet nobody claims the next Ford car model is the torment nexus. This is the same. A text/audio generator is never going to do a robot uprising, it's just as likely as your neighbor's Ford destroying your house with its giant fists.