> If that means we don't get to call ourselves "engineers", I'm good with that. I suspect this particular title-exaggeration is fueling this particular fire.

> If that means we don't get to call ourselves "engineers", I'm good with that. I suspect this particular title-exaggeration is fueling this particular fire. Going forward, I believe we need to be aware that software controlled mechanics grew out of two disparate disciplines; it presently lacks the holistic thinking that long-integrated industries do.