Hi, I'm one of the PEP authors. Your point covers one of my motivations, so here's a bit about what interests me. Mainly, "Jinja2 and Django templates are prett

Hi, I'm one of the PEP authors. Your point covers one of my motivations, so here's a bit about what interests me. Mainly, "Jinja2 and Django templates are pretty much just using Python." I see things differently. In those, nearly everything is a parallel universe where things aren't Python. Scope rules. Imports. Control flow. Calling things. Navigation. Refactoring. Linting. Therefore, Python tooling can't really help much. Tools have to write special rules to help on each template language and framework. Instead, imagine if Black, Ruff, mypy, pyupgrade, and IDEs could treat the template part as software. I realize I'm describing "people who want Python tooling", which might be a minority. I also realize there's pushback about additions to Python. That said, I think TSX and friends have shown -- there's lots we can do to improve Python web development.