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Your comment makes it sound like everyone's PII just spontaneously generates itself on platforms. The problem is that it's not how it works; individual action i

Your comment makes it sound like everyone's PII just spontaneously generates itself on platforms. The problem is that it's not how it works; individual action is what puts your information on adversarial platforms. Personal privacy is the sum of your actions, and the steps you take individually to not share your details with hundreds of people goes a long ways stopping that. If you want to scare businesses, ban arbitration clauses and other self-absolving Terms of Service. It won't stop Pornhub from getting hacked but it will make their lawyers piss themselves imagining the consequences. Trying to enforce SOC2 on the entire internet is an exercise in futility that will end with Russian hackers selling your credit card to teenagers.

matheusmoreira 2y ago
> ban arbitration clauses and other self-absolving Terms of Service Society really needs to do this as soon as possible. These businesses give themselves the right to do anything they want by putting some clause in some document nobody reads.
idle_zealot 2y ago
> Personal privacy is the sum of your actions, and the steps you take individually to not share your details with hundreds of people goes a long ways stopping that. Of course it doesn't appear "spontaneously," it's the result of your actions and others' actions, hence the "cabin in the woods" solution. The commenter is implying that expecting each individual to carefully act to preserve their online privacy clearly isn't producing good outcomes, and would like to see collective action through regulation to encourage better outcomes. > If you want to scare businesses, ban arbitration clauses and other self-absolving Terms of Service. That is one potential way to implement the suggested "hazardous material" policy. If storage of any data opens a business up to legal action with teeth then they'll stop risking the storage of such data outside of when the benefit to them outweighs the potential risk. Ideally the risk would be such that it becomes standard practice to process data on-device and design protocols and services such that only the absolute minimum required amount of information leaves end-user devices.
- eltoxo 2y ago
  My understanding of data fusion is that it wouldn't matter much what you do. If you live in the modern world you are producing data about your actions and that data is going to be collected.

matheusmoreira 2y ago

> ban arbitration clauses and other self-absolving Terms of Service Society really needs to do this as soon as possible. These businesses give themselves the right to do anything they want by putting some clause in some document nobody reads.

idle_zealot 2y ago

> Personal privacy is the sum of your actions, and the steps you take individually to not share your details with hundreds of people goes a long ways stopping that. Of course it doesn't appear "spontaneously," it's the result of your actions and others' actions, hence the "cabin in the woods" solution. The commenter is implying that expecting each individual to carefully act to preserve their online privacy clearly isn't producing good outcomes, and would like to see collective action through regulation to encourage better outcomes. > If you want to scare businesses, ban arbitration clauses and other self-absolving Terms of Service. That is one potential way to implement the suggested "hazardous material" policy. If storage of any data opens a business up to legal action with teeth then they'll stop risking the storage of such data outside of when the benefit to them outweighs the potential risk. Ideally the risk would be such that it becomes standard practice to process data on-device and design protocols and services such that only the absolute minimum required amount of information leaves end-user devices.

eltoxo 2y ago
My understanding of data fusion is that it wouldn't matter much what you do. If you live in the modern world you are producing data about your actions and that data is going to be collected.