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I’m sitting in an electric car in a large Chinese city right now. Looking around I count 7/10 cars are electric, easily recognizable by green license plates, al

I’m sitting in an electric car in a large Chinese city right now. Looking around I count 7/10 cars are electric, easily recognizable by green license plates, all from brands I’ve never seen in the US. The electric cars are cheap and I don’t see any evidence that they are poor quality. It feels like there’s absolutely something transformative happening here which the US is missing out on.

bamboozled 2y ago
This level of production at a high level of quality also means military capability too. They can build way more drones, bombs , whatever at scale now.
- Gigachad 2y ago
  Ok? Weirdly off topic comment.
  - aaomidi 2y ago
    Not really honestly. It is a reality that falling behind manufacturing means America also becomes less of a military powerhouse. Something that I’m genuinely happy about anyway.
    - pdonis 2y ago
      > America also becomes less of a military powerhouse. Something that I’m genuinely happy about Why so? Sure, it would be a nice world if no country was a military powerhouse, but that's not the world we live in. If the choice is between the US or China being the military powerhouse, why would you pick China?
      - Aerbil313 2y ago
        Of course in practice there’ll always be war and militaries. It’s not about that, it’s about how just and fit to rule is the guy with the longest stick. There are plenty of us who will be forever bitter about this period in history of US dominance. You may not have noticed from your garden in Virginia, but entire countries have been bombed to rubbles and and entire populations killed or forced to migrate. Still continuing too. In that sense, we’d much prefer actually good and just people ruling the world, not US or Russia or China etc. Edit: Fix ambiguity.
        pdonis 2y ago
        > it’s about how just and fit to rule is the guy with the longest stick. And again, if the choices are the US or China, why would you consider China to be more "just and fit to rule"? > your garden in Virginia I don't live in Virginia and I don't have a garden. > entire countries have been bombed to rubbles and and entire populations killed or forced to migrate So you think the US has done more of this than China? Or than other countries? What are you basing that on? > we’d much prefer actually good and just people ruling the world What if there aren't any? If you don't think the US makes the grade, who do you think does? Anyone?
        Aerbil313 2y ago
        Sorry, it’s really funny, I just realized my sentence was grammatically ambiguous. Now edited to clarify. Intended meaning was neither the US nor China nor Russia make just and good rulers, judging by what they currently do in their current spheres of influence. >> your garden in Virginia > I don't live in Virginia and I don't have a garden. It’s a figure of speech, representing stereotypical upper middle class American. > If you don't think the US makes the grade, who do you think does? Anyone? People who actually let others live in peace and harmony, people who are guided by a strong set of morals. If you think you’re free to do whatever, you’ll do whatever. If you think you’re free to do whatever when others aren’t watching, you’ll do whatever when others aren’t watching. Muslims think neither and historically they have a proven track record of compassionate ruling, as opposed to the neo-feudalistic dog eat dog world we live in which is really just Middle Ages Europe with a higher baseline wealth.
        pdonis 2y ago
        > Intended meaning was neither the US nor China nor Russia make just and good rulers I already got that that was your intended meaning. I was asking who you think do make just and good rulers. Apparently your answer is "Muslims", which I guess means we're just going to have to disagree.
        pdonis 2y ago
        > stereotypical upper middle class American Not sure where you're getting that from since the only claim I have made about the US (by implication) is that I think China is worse.
    - Log_out_ 2y ago
      So are you happy with the crimean anexation? With turkey and syria pounding the kurds? With the various genocides and the dozen landempires that want to restart the great game? its okay to say us partially bad, but saying the us everything bad shows cluelessness?
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  - more_corn 2y ago
    Doesn’t seem off topic to me. china’s technological and social progress has military implications as well.
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bamboozled 2y ago

This level of production at a high level of quality also means military capability too. They can build way more drones, bombs , whatever at scale now.

Gigachad 2y ago
Ok? Weirdly off topic comment.
- aaomidi 2y ago
  Not really honestly. It is a reality that falling behind manufacturing means America also becomes less of a military powerhouse. Something that I’m genuinely happy about anyway.
  - pdonis 2y ago
    > America also becomes less of a military powerhouse. Something that I’m genuinely happy about Why so? Sure, it would be a nice world if no country was a military powerhouse, but that's not the world we live in. If the choice is between the US or China being the military powerhouse, why would you pick China?
    - Aerbil313 2y ago
      Of course in practice there’ll always be war and militaries. It’s not about that, it’s about how just and fit to rule is the guy with the longest stick. There are plenty of us who will be forever bitter about this period in history of US dominance. You may not have noticed from your garden in Virginia, but entire countries have been bombed to rubbles and and entire populations killed or forced to migrate. Still continuing too. In that sense, we’d much prefer actually good and just people ruling the world, not US or Russia or China etc. Edit: Fix ambiguity.
      - pdonis 2y ago
        > it’s about how just and fit to rule is the guy with the longest stick. And again, if the choices are the US or China, why would you consider China to be more "just and fit to rule"? > your garden in Virginia I don't live in Virginia and I don't have a garden. > entire countries have been bombed to rubbles and and entire populations killed or forced to migrate So you think the US has done more of this than China? Or than other countries? What are you basing that on? > we’d much prefer actually good and just people ruling the world What if there aren't any? If you don't think the US makes the grade, who do you think does? Anyone?
        Aerbil313 2y ago
        Sorry, it’s really funny, I just realized my sentence was grammatically ambiguous. Now edited to clarify. Intended meaning was neither the US nor China nor Russia make just and good rulers, judging by what they currently do in their current spheres of influence. >> your garden in Virginia > I don't live in Virginia and I don't have a garden. It’s a figure of speech, representing stereotypical upper middle class American. > If you don't think the US makes the grade, who do you think does? Anyone? People who actually let others live in peace and harmony, people who are guided by a strong set of morals. If you think you’re free to do whatever, you’ll do whatever. If you think you’re free to do whatever when others aren’t watching, you’ll do whatever when others aren’t watching. Muslims think neither and historically they have a proven track record of compassionate ruling, as opposed to the neo-feudalistic dog eat dog world we live in which is really just Middle Ages Europe with a higher baseline wealth.
        pdonis 2y ago
        > Intended meaning was neither the US nor China nor Russia make just and good rulers I already got that that was your intended meaning. I was asking who you think do make just and good rulers. Apparently your answer is "Muslims", which I guess means we're just going to have to disagree.
        pdonis 2y ago
        > stereotypical upper middle class American Not sure where you're getting that from since the only claim I have made about the US (by implication) is that I think China is worse.
  - Log_out_ 2y ago
    So are you happy with the crimean anexation? With turkey and syria pounding the kurds? With the various genocides and the dozen landempires that want to restart the great game? its okay to say us partially bad, but saying the us everything bad shows cluelessness?
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- more_corn 2y ago
  Doesn’t seem off topic to me. china’s technological and social progress has military implications as well.

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