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No, software updates in the EU could just start costing money, like software updates used to. Google would be able to continue “android updates are free” becau

by olliej 2y ago

No, software updates in the EU could just start costing money, like software updates used to. Google would be able to continue “android updates are free” because they’re an advertising company and android exists for the sole purpose of ensuring Google has a constant revenue stream from their OS. And then users get to choose “do I pay for an update” or “do I accept my only option is Google gets to know everything I do?” Similarly people competing with that get to go “well do I charge money for my work so I can pay bills or do I just pay on and sell out my users?” Obviously developers will also have to support older OSs as well because they won’t be able to rely on people updating. Pretty much sounds like an all round win to me: Google gets to continue being a shitty company without restraint, developers have to support more platforms, and users stop updating software. I’m also curious what you think the store commission should be capped at, because obviously the cap needs to apply to companies like steam and epic as well as the console vendors.

sagarm 2y ago
I suppose if Apple won't fix security vulnerabilities in software they sold, the only remedy would be a return and refund? Sounds costly for Apple.
kalleboo 2y ago
> do I accept my only option is Google gets to know everything I do? GDPR lets people opt-out of this, see what is going on with Facebook right now. Enforcement may not have hit Android yet but it will eventually. > obviously the cap needs to apply to companies like steam and epic No regulation is needed on platforms where there is competition - you aren't required to release your games on Steam to reach customers on Windows. The cap on Windows is already zero. > as well as the console vendors Consoles are way too insignificant a market to be counted as gatekeepers.
talldayo 2y ago
I really hope this comment is just trolling people, because if you believe both of these things you've been lied to by someone. > android exists for the sole purpose of ensuring Google has a constant revenue stream from their OS. Does it? That's funny, it seems to be the other way around. Android can be built without Google services at all. You do not need a single bit of Google telemetry, advertising or otherwise, to build, run and enjoy Android. iOS fits that description better. Apple sues anyone that tries to modify and redistribute the OS or prevent user tracking at a software level. For fuck's sake, this is a thread about Apple trying to charge developers money for using the hyperlinking feature and you're trying to call Android the moneygrubbing OS? Methinks you're projecting your insecurity as an iOS user. > because obviously the cap needs to apply to companies like steam and epic as well as the console vendors. Obviously they don't, but I guess I wouldn't expect any different from someone in denial that the DMA and DSA exist. Read them; Steam, Epic, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are all alike in that they offer third-parties a fair opportunity to compete. Steam and Epic are very literally in direct competition with each other, so unless your point is highlighting how different these stores are from the App Store your point makes no sense. Seriously; read the source material of what you are talking about before you take up Apple's sword and go to war for them. Your deliberate misinterpretation of the law isn't going to make people reconsider anything besides their initial support for Apple.

by olliej 2y ago

sagarm 2y ago

I suppose if Apple won't fix security vulnerabilities in software they sold, the only remedy would be a return and refund? Sounds costly for Apple.

kalleboo 2y ago

> do I accept my only option is Google gets to know everything I do? GDPR lets people opt-out of this, see what is going on with Facebook right now. Enforcement may not have hit Android yet but it will eventually. > obviously the cap needs to apply to companies like steam and epic No regulation is needed on platforms where there is competition - you aren't required to release your games on Steam to reach customers on Windows. The cap on Windows is already zero. > as well as the console vendors Consoles are way too insignificant a market to be counted as gatekeepers.

talldayo 2y ago

I really hope this comment is just trolling people, because if you believe both of these things you've been lied to by someone. > android exists for the sole purpose of ensuring Google has a constant revenue stream from their OS. Does it? That's funny, it seems to be the other way around. Android can be built without Google services at all. You do not need a single bit of Google telemetry, advertising or otherwise, to build, run and enjoy Android. iOS fits that description better. Apple sues anyone that tries to modify and redistribute the OS or prevent user tracking at a software level. For fuck's sake, this is a thread about Apple trying to charge developers money for using the hyperlinking feature and you're trying to call Android the moneygrubbing OS? Methinks you're projecting your insecurity as an iOS user. > because obviously the cap needs to apply to companies like steam and epic as well as the console vendors. Obviously they don't, but I guess I wouldn't expect any different from someone in denial that the DMA and DSA exist. Read them; Steam, Epic, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are all alike in that they offer third-parties a fair opportunity to compete. Steam and Epic are very literally in direct competition with each other, so unless your point is highlighting how different these stores are from the App Store your point makes no sense. Seriously; read the source material of what you are talking about before you take up Apple's sword and go to war for them. Your deliberate misinterpretation of the law isn't going to make people reconsider anything besides their initial support for Apple.