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I think AI + deepfakes will increase the value pressure on in-person interactions - ie, the only time when you can (for now) believe your eyes and ears. I wond

I think AI + deepfakes will increase the value pressure on in-person interactions - ie, the only time when you can (for now) believe your eyes and ears. I wonder how politics can be transacted in such an environment. Old-timey first-past-the-post might be the optimal solution if you can't trust anything from out of earshot.

carapace 2y ago
> I wonder how politics can be transacted in such an environment. Codes and seals predate computers (by quite a bit.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_(cryptography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_(cryptography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_(emblem) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_(emblem)
- FredPret 2y ago
  Those are relevant to the workings of government. The process of politicians debating and getting elected is going to have to be much more local. Just look at how easy it is to spread misinformation now.
  - carapace 2y ago
    My hope is that we (as a global society) re-learn to value honor and honesty. > The process of politicians debating and getting elected is going to have to be much more local. I'm no expert on government but that seems like it would be a good thing. IMO the best but most expensive form of government is Quaker-style Consensus Decision Making: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_decision-making https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_decision-making https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making
shireboy 2y ago
In person interactions like this CIA mask expert tricking a US president? https://spyscape.com/article/master-of-disguise-how-the-cias-ex-chief-of-disguise-stared-down-a-terrorist https://spyscape.com/article/master-of-disguise-how-the-cias...
- jaynetics 2y ago
  This is a nice article, but I don't think it works as a counter argument to GP. Deep fake shenanigans are way more scalable and thus more likely to affect average people than these elite spy techniques.

carapace 2y ago

> I wonder how politics can be transacted in such an environment. Codes and seals predate computers (by quite a bit.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_(cryptography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_(cryptography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_(emblem) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_(emblem)

FredPret 2y ago
Those are relevant to the workings of government. The process of politicians debating and getting elected is going to have to be much more local. Just look at how easy it is to spread misinformation now.
- carapace 2y ago
  My hope is that we (as a global society) re-learn to value honor and honesty. > The process of politicians debating and getting elected is going to have to be much more local. I'm no expert on government but that seems like it would be a good thing. IMO the best but most expensive form of government is Quaker-style Consensus Decision Making: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_decision-making https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_decision-making https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making

shireboy 2y ago

In person interactions like this CIA mask expert tricking a US president? https://spyscape.com/article/master-of-disguise-how-the-cias-ex-chief-of-disguise-stared-down-a-terrorist https://spyscape.com/article/master-of-disguise-how-the-cias...

jaynetics 2y ago
This is a nice article, but I don't think it works as a counter argument to GP. Deep fake shenanigans are way more scalable and thus more likely to affect average people than these elite spy techniques.