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If there is any interest in ground truth concerning the situation: "Many of you are asking how Tim Walz was able to get away with lying about his service record

If there is any interest in ground truth concerning the situation: "Many of you are asking how Tim Walz was able to get away with lying about his service record for so long." https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/1821908435316691277?s=19 https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/1821908435316691277?s=19

eesmith 2y ago
Walz deployed for a year for as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, which is something you claimed he did not do, in your flagged comment. An X link is a lousy source. I don't care to wallow in that muck heap, and without an account I can't read more than the one posting you linked to. What is wrong with the Task & Purpose description of the situation?
- smitty1e 2y ago
  Walz bagged out. I realize that the Narrative Alchemists think they can transform any lead into gold, but this is some tough material[1]. It's also a fair point that 20-year old news is less than fresh, but the Narrative Alchemists certainly don't want voters asking any hard questions about policy and direction. So we get these lousy personality/biography reviews in lieu of serious discussion. [1] https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-head-to-do-so-n3792960 https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-super...
  - eesmith 2y ago
    Yes or no question for you. Did Walz deploy for a year, in 2003-2004, as part of Operation Enduring Freedom?
    - smitty1e 2y ago
      No. "Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) was the official name used by the U.S. government for both the first stage (2001–2014) of the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) and the larger-scale Global War on Terrorism." [0] "Walz deployed in August 2003 in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. The Minnesota National Guard told CBS News the battalion supported security missions at various locations in Europe and Turkey. Walz was stationed at Vicenza, Italy, at the time and returned to Minnesota in April 2004." [1] So, as someone who actually deployed to Afghanistan with 270 days of boots on the ground from Dec2010-Sep2011, you and all of the other folks defending Walz can take a long walk off a short pier. Walz is a classic case of stolen valor. His non-command of integrity is typical of his party. The knobs bombing my karma on this thread can get stuffed. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-walz-military-record/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-walz-military-record/
      - defrost 2y ago
        I'm Australian and from a family with a loooong military association (going back at the very least to the Crimean War (1850s)). With zero interests in the partisan political aspects of this, from a purely grunt on the ground, cog in the machine PoV, if it was true that he was "deployed in August 2003 in support of Operation Enduring Freedom" then he was part of that Operation even if that service was greasing wheels on vehicles in Italy. These Operations sprawl larger than the pointy parts faced off across valleys, and those who serve generally STFU and do what they are told. I get that he didn't have boots on the killing grounds, I have to assume that had he been deployed to a front line position then he would have gone as instructed.
        smitty1e 2y ago
        => "for a year" And yes, I grasp that military efforts have some sprawl to them. "...had he been deployed to a front line position then he would have gone as instructed." It is clear that Walz had knowledge of the schedule, bagged out, and then let his actions be mis-characterized for years. Even Walz's former boss is critical => https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/08/09/bombshell-tim-walz-former-commander-goes-on-cnn-delivers-devestating-testimony-n2177949 https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/08/09/bombshell-tim-walz-f...
      - eesmith 2y ago
        So you are telling me that my wife, in her two year-long non-combat deployments as part of the Reserve, did not actually serve as part of Operation Enduring Freedom? Fuck off. My grandpa got enough of that shit as a quartermaster in WWII Italy, when people considered him a lesser solider because he wasn't on the front lines.
        smitty1e 2y ago
        Magnificent strawmanning. I answered your "yes or no question" with specifics, and you ignored the specifics. This places your arguments on Walz footing.
      - rascul 2y ago

eesmith 2y ago

Walz deployed for a year for as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, which is something you claimed he did not do, in your flagged comment. An X link is a lousy source. I don't care to wallow in that muck heap, and without an account I can't read more than the one posting you linked to. What is wrong with the Task & Purpose description of the situation?

smitty1e 2y ago
Walz bagged out. I realize that the Narrative Alchemists think they can transform any lead into gold, but this is some tough material[1]. It's also a fair point that 20-year old news is less than fresh, but the Narrative Alchemists certainly don't want voters asking any hard questions about policy and direction. So we get these lousy personality/biography reviews in lieu of serious discussion. [1] https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-head-to-do-so-n3792960 https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-super...
- eesmith 2y ago
  Yes or no question for you. Did Walz deploy for a year, in 2003-2004, as part of Operation Enduring Freedom?
  - smitty1e 2y ago
    No. "Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) was the official name used by the U.S. government for both the first stage (2001–2014) of the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) and the larger-scale Global War on Terrorism." [0] "Walz deployed in August 2003 in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. The Minnesota National Guard told CBS News the battalion supported security missions at various locations in Europe and Turkey. Walz was stationed at Vicenza, Italy, at the time and returned to Minnesota in April 2004." [1] So, as someone who actually deployed to Afghanistan with 270 days of boots on the ground from Dec2010-Sep2011, you and all of the other folks defending Walz can take a long walk off a short pier. Walz is a classic case of stolen valor. His non-command of integrity is typical of his party. The knobs bombing my karma on this thread can get stuffed. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-walz-military-record/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-walz-military-record/
    - defrost 2y ago
      I'm Australian and from a family with a loooong military association (going back at the very least to the Crimean War (1850s)). With zero interests in the partisan political aspects of this, from a purely grunt on the ground, cog in the machine PoV, if it was true that he was "deployed in August 2003 in support of Operation Enduring Freedom" then he was part of that Operation even if that service was greasing wheels on vehicles in Italy. These Operations sprawl larger than the pointy parts faced off across valleys, and those who serve generally STFU and do what they are told. I get that he didn't have boots on the killing grounds, I have to assume that had he been deployed to a front line position then he would have gone as instructed.
      - smitty1e 2y ago
        => "for a year" And yes, I grasp that military efforts have some sprawl to them. "...had he been deployed to a front line position then he would have gone as instructed." It is clear that Walz had knowledge of the schedule, bagged out, and then let his actions be mis-characterized for years. Even Walz's former boss is critical => https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/08/09/bombshell-tim-walz-former-commander-goes-on-cnn-delivers-devestating-testimony-n2177949 https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/08/09/bombshell-tim-walz-f...
    - eesmith 2y ago
      So you are telling me that my wife, in her two year-long non-combat deployments as part of the Reserve, did not actually serve as part of Operation Enduring Freedom? Fuck off. My grandpa got enough of that shit as a quartermaster in WWII Italy, when people considered him a lesser solider because he wasn't on the front lines.
      - smitty1e 2y ago
        Magnificent strawmanning. I answered your "yes or no question" with specifics, and you ignored the specifics. This places your arguments on Walz footing.
    - rascul 2y ago