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The problem with pointing obesity as the culprit is that ourworldindata has the same chart for obesity, where almost all countries are increasing at the same ra

The problem with pointing obesity as the culprit is that ourworldindata has the same chart for obesity, where almost all countries are increasing at the same rate as US. But just US has this stark high cancer rate.

trhway 2y ago
US is a standout in obesity - only Arab countries and Native Pacific are close to it where obesity has different character than in US. And may be the obesity and cancer has the same cause - high processed sugar diet for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Prevalence_Of_Obesity_In_The_Adult_Population,_Top_Countries_(2016).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#/... https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.02.16.24302894v1.full https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.02.16.24302894v... "The United States (U.S.) is the leading country in ultra-processed food (UPF) consumption, accounting for 60% of caloric intake, compared to a range of 14 to 44% in Europe. "
- reducesuffering 2y ago
  It doesn't pass the smell test. In 1990, US was 18.7% obese with a cancer incidence of 1,760, UK and Australia at 780. Most recent is 2016 showing Australia and UK at 30% obesity, yet their cancer incidence is lower than ever at 750 and 682, respectively. Everyone but the US (and Poland) are increasing their obesity while their cancer incidence is flat or decreasing: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-adults-defined-as-obese?tab=chart&country=USA~GBR~BRA~AUS~WHO_EUR~WHO_SEAR~POL~CAN~JPN~MEX~DEU https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-adults-defined-a...
  - trhway 2y ago
    Something fishy with the data there as here https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/global-cancer-data-by-country/#:~:text=The%20highest%20cancer%20rate%20for,global%20cancer%20incidence%20excluding%20NMSC https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/global-cancer-data-by-cou.... age standartized rate: USA - 367 UK - 307 Australia - 462

trhway 2y ago

US is a standout in obesity - only Arab countries and Native Pacific are close to it where obesity has different character than in US. And may be the obesity and cancer has the same cause - high processed sugar diet for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Prevalence_Of_Obesity_In_The_Adult_Population,_Top_Countries_(2016).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#/... https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.02.16.24302894v1.full https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.02.16.24302894v... "The United States (U.S.) is the leading country in ultra-processed food (UPF) consumption, accounting for 60% of caloric intake, compared to a range of 14 to 44% in Europe. "

reducesuffering 2y ago
It doesn't pass the smell test. In 1990, US was 18.7% obese with a cancer incidence of 1,760, UK and Australia at 780. Most recent is 2016 showing Australia and UK at 30% obesity, yet their cancer incidence is lower than ever at 750 and 682, respectively. Everyone but the US (and Poland) are increasing their obesity while their cancer incidence is flat or decreasing: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-adults-defined-as-obese?tab=chart&country=USA~GBR~BRA~AUS~WHO_EUR~WHO_SEAR~POL~CAN~JPN~MEX~DEU https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-adults-defined-a...
- trhway 2y ago
  Something fishy with the data there as here https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/global-cancer-data-by-country/#:~:text=The%20highest%20cancer%20rate%20for,global%20cancer%20incidence%20excluding%20NMSC https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/global-cancer-data-by-cou.... age standartized rate: USA - 367 UK - 307 Australia - 462