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I know someone who basically chain smokes pot all day long. And somehow managers to remain productive. So yeah, some people are smoking the equivalent of 20-4

I know someone who basically chain smokes pot all day long. And somehow managers to remain productive. So yeah, some people are smoking the equivalent of 20-40

nikkwong 2y ago
Saying they “remain productive” shouldn’t ring in as an endorsement. We don’t have the counterfactual to know how much more impressive they would be otherwise.
- roughly 2y ago
  I broadly agree, and - a great many people who smoke to that degree are self-medicating for various mental health issues, so the counterfactual isn't quite as cut and dry as that.
  - nikkwong 2y ago
    My problem is more-so with the individuals with no ailments who have been lulled into believing that marijuana is benign or even something that can act to enhance cognitive performance. We have a lot of scientific evidence to the contrary, and the anecdotes like "they're still doing fine" is reductionist and undermines the salience of my point for many people.
SkyPuncher 2y ago
To be fair, there are functional alcoholics who basically have to drink all day to function..
- Ekaros 2y ago
  Also I have heard some stories of what seems functional opiate users. Functionality seems rather fluctuating bar. Some people are not functional even without any drugs and some manage well enough with drugs...
  - asveikau 2y ago
    > Also I have heard some stories of what seems functional opiate users. This is an important story that gets lost in public discussions of fentanyl. Street opiates are difficult to dose correctly and you don't know precisely what you're getting, so overdoses are high and people are dying. In prior time periods, longtime users were more able to dose correctly and survive.
whateveracct 2y ago
you only need to be Productive Enough to Keep Your Job, to be fair there's headroom to fuck around while working. weed and other things (e.g. video games throughout the day)
- cykros 2y ago
  You leave my Oldschool Runescape out of this.
cykros 2y ago
Ahh, but functional at what? Many people will functionally make use of marijuana throughout the day doing say, restaurant work, and if anything, will function better (YOU try putting up with hangry customers all day without something to take the edge off). But bring that habit into another role where speed and precision are important and the amount of people who can excel starts to dwindle.
- fnord77 2y ago
  programming

I know someone who basically chain smokes pot all day long. And somehow managers to remain productive. So yeah, some people are smoking the equivalent of 20-40

nikkwong 2y ago

Saying they “remain productive” shouldn’t ring in as an endorsement. We don’t have the counterfactual to know how much more impressive they would be otherwise.

roughly 2y ago
I broadly agree, and - a great many people who smoke to that degree are self-medicating for various mental health issues, so the counterfactual isn't quite as cut and dry as that.
- nikkwong 2y ago
  My problem is more-so with the individuals with no ailments who have been lulled into believing that marijuana is benign or even something that can act to enhance cognitive performance. We have a lot of scientific evidence to the contrary, and the anecdotes like "they're still doing fine" is reductionist and undermines the salience of my point for many people.

SkyPuncher 2y ago

To be fair, there are functional alcoholics who basically have to drink all day to function..

Ekaros 2y ago
Also I have heard some stories of what seems functional opiate users. Functionality seems rather fluctuating bar. Some people are not functional even without any drugs and some manage well enough with drugs...
- asveikau 2y ago
  > Also I have heard some stories of what seems functional opiate users. This is an important story that gets lost in public discussions of fentanyl. Street opiates are difficult to dose correctly and you don't know precisely what you're getting, so overdoses are high and people are dying. In prior time periods, longtime users were more able to dose correctly and survive.

whateveracct 2y ago

you only need to be Productive Enough to Keep Your Job, to be fair there's headroom to fuck around while working. weed and other things (e.g. video games throughout the day)

cykros 2y ago
You leave my Oldschool Runescape out of this.

cykros 2y ago

Ahh, but functional at what? Many people will functionally make use of marijuana throughout the day doing say, restaurant work, and if anything, will function better (YOU try putting up with hangry customers all day without something to take the edge off). But bring that habit into another role where speed and precision are important and the amount of people who can excel starts to dwindle.

fnord77 2y ago
programming