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This is an absolutely nutso take. Nobody buys it, I don't know how it even continues to be repeated aloud anymore. You cannot function in the united States with
by big-green-man 2y ago
This is an absolutely nutso take. Nobody buys it, I don't know how it even continues to be repeated aloud anymore. You cannot function in the united States without a government ID. I have known (and been) the poorest of the poor in the US and have never, ever, met a person over the age of 18 without a government ID. Not a single one. You need one to drive, to buy beer, to get lottery tickets, to get government benefits, to get a job, you need an ID for everything.
Someone who can't take time off work to get an ID most certainly can't take time off to go vote.
- nathanaldensr 2y agoExactly. It's an oft-repeated talking point accepted as fact but with absolutely no facts to back it up. It identifies the speaker as being of a certain political persuasion and as a non-critical thinker.
- 7e 2y agoYour ID may not have your correct address, because you recently moved. Heck, I know people who have moved across state borders and gone years without updating their ID. In that case you can still use it to work, buy alcohol, drive, get government benefits, etc., but you still might need to spend four hours at the DMV in order to use it to vote, because your ballot is customized to your particular city/neighborhood. So, it's still a tax/restriction which can prevent voter participation.
- big-green-man 2y agoI have had the wrong address on my drivers license deliberately my whole life and still to this day it has never stopped me from voting.
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