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> People have a natural right to receive justice There's no such thing as a "natural right". Rights are granted, not innate. In the US we might think freedom
by kelnos 2y ago
> People have a natural right to receive justice
There's no such thing as a "natural right". Rights are granted, not innate. In the US we might think freedom of speech is a "natural right", but go to a country that doesn't have that, and you'll see how "natural" it really is. (And hell, even in the US, free speech rights are curtailed all the time.)
> IF the government abdicates its assumed responsibility to provide justice people have every moral and ethical right to enact justice themselves.
I don't agree with that. Look at how (for example) the 1800s in the US west looked when it came to so-called "justice", when the government wouldn't or couldn't prevent or track all that much crime. That's not a world I want to experience.
- lupusreal 2y agoOther countries violating rights doesn't mean those rights don't exist. I speak of natural rights and not legal rights for this reason. And not that I have not denied the negative consequences of vigilantism for society as a whole. Those consequences are the reason governments are supposed to seek justice in a more orderly and accountable manner. It is when governments renege on that responsibility that they bare the blame for the consequences, as people seek justice on their own (because they know justice is their right and will seek it themselves if nobody else will for them. This innate understanding of being entitled to justice is the proof that a natural right to justice does exist.)