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Going for shock value (which leads to more media exposure) over peaceful protesting is new, you can’t ignore that. It is in fact the most valid point of this cl

Going for shock value (which leads to more media exposure) over peaceful protesting is new, you can’t ignore that. It is in fact the most valid point of this clearly conservative-biased article. Before, you were looking for people to sympathize with your plea and behave nicely as a consequence, today it’s all about getting more clicks and eyeballs and feeding outrage.

mtalantikite 2y ago
Black Panther Party famously brought guns to the California Statehouse in Sacramento: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6woXE-RPY7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6woXE-RPY7A and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Protest_at_the_Statehouse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Protest_at...
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- ricardobeat 2y ago
  Do you really want to compare the Black Panthers to Just Stop Oil? I don't have any numbers but pretty sure violent protests, attacking monuments and historic sites, or just doing extremely provocative stuff was the exception, not the norm? Of course there will be plenty of historical events, but I don't even remember the last pacific protest or sit-down I've seen recently. These days your local beekeepers association is resorting to these tactics, because it's the only thing that works in the social media era. Combine that with general restlessness in western societies, increased police violence, and here we are...
wk_end 2y ago
It’s a nice and pat explanation, but like I said, it’s ahistorical. Gen Z didn’t invent provocation. Flag burning at Vietnam War protests was deliberately shocking. May 1968 was not “behaving nicely”. The Stonewall Riots weren’t “behaving nicely”. The Boston Tea Party was not “behaving nicely”.
stranded22 2y ago
I think the suffragettes would like to have a word... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arso...

mtalantikite 2y ago

Black Panther Party famously brought guns to the California Statehouse in Sacramento: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6woXE-RPY7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6woXE-RPY7A and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Protest_at_the_Statehouse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Protest_at...

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ricardobeat 2y ago
Do you really want to compare the Black Panthers to Just Stop Oil? I don't have any numbers but pretty sure violent protests, attacking monuments and historic sites, or just doing extremely provocative stuff was the exception, not the norm? Of course there will be plenty of historical events, but I don't even remember the last pacific protest or sit-down I've seen recently. These days your local beekeepers association is resorting to these tactics, because it's the only thing that works in the social media era. Combine that with general restlessness in western societies, increased police violence, and here we are...

wk_end 2y ago

It’s a nice and pat explanation, but like I said, it’s ahistorical. Gen Z didn’t invent provocation. Flag burning at Vietnam War protests was deliberately shocking. May 1968 was not “behaving nicely”. The Stonewall Riots weren’t “behaving nicely”. The Boston Tea Party was not “behaving nicely”.

stranded22 2y ago

I think the suffragettes would like to have a word... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arso...