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I would actually like a penchant that records everything around me and transcribes it plus gives me statistics and feedback on my communication. How much I inte

I would actually like a penchant that records everything around me and transcribes it plus gives me statistics and feedback on my communication. How much I interrupt people, how much space I take in convos, how to be a better conversationalist, etc. All local compute of course.

jdross 2y ago
Yes, but the problem is that I don't want to be recorded without my consent by you at all times. And I don't want to have to negotiate you removing this device that is recording me every time we are near each other.
- miki123211 2y ago
  Do you mind if somebody takes notes of the conversation you're having with them? At what point do the notes become too detailed? An audio recording? A transcript? A summary of the transcript? Do you mind the fact that all modern smartphones technically record all calls? Digital audio always ends up in a RAM buffer somewhere, and due to how memory allocation works, there's no guarantee that all the buffers will be fully destroyed after the call is complete. How's an AI "recording" your conversation in memory, transcribing it and writing a summary of that transcript, different from a phone doing the recording to RAM, and a human brain doing the transcribing and writing?
  - advisedwang 2y ago
    > Do you mind if somebody takes notes of the conversation you're having with them? It would certainly change the way most people will interact with them. > At what point do the notes become too detailed? It doesn't have to be a binary and can vary for different people and situations. > Do you mind the fact that all modern smartphones technically record all calls? You cannot retrieve the "recording" of a call, so this is not really meaningful in any relevant way. > How's an AI "recording" your conversation in memory, transcribing it and writing a summary of that transcript, different from a phone doing the recording to RAM, and a human brain doing the transcribing and writing? Because it is doing it all the time. "Quantity has a quality of its own"
  - andrepd 2y ago
    What? Or course taking notes on a casual conversation is weird, let alone recording it. Of course "writing audio in the sound chip buffer" is not the same thing as "storing audio and data mining it", let along the same as "a brain listening to it". >A-ha but technically... No please don't, this is not engaging in good faith.
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samstave 2y ago
Actually: I helped a guy think through just this on reddit a while back and he came back and it worked -- I had stated it as a DEFCON badge idea that he came up with - but his valid reason was it was his job to report on a conference, and had agreed parties to recording. What he came up with was a hybrid of my recommendation which was an AI listener to audio to text transcribe to rag to search... Basically using whisper: >>"I recorded the talks on my phone, uploaded them to my PC and transcribed them with the Whisper plug-in for Audacity. Then fed the transcripts to Gemini and had it generate summaries" -- [the reddit thread was abou the ability for AI to specifically hone in on a specific voice - meaning that you could wander through a conference and ether listen for a specific voice and record on ly that - or all voices that are talking about a particular subject out of the crowd so you could follow actual comments and interest on a person or topic in real-ish time and log it all - hence the DEFCON badge level] -- So do all this on a RpiBadge with a pc-link of whatever sort... (You could have a Magic Loop upload an hours worth of audio compressed to a thing and have it capture that log of audio, transcribe it and build the personalization DB based on having it indexed by txtai python lib... and then be able to query all the audio youve recorded... You could pull in the 1FPS idea from another HNer and have your body-cam capture 1fps uploads and have a img-to-txt summary of the insitu and be able to say "show me all the frames where "red balloon" was in focus? ((This is actually what I want to do with a webcam - is have it txt summarize via txtAI a web stream and then be able to "Zoom Enhance" on anything throughout the day: "Show me garage cam an list all the times a human is decribed in frame - tell me what color shirt is described to all humans - show me the frames with a red shirt" https://neuml.github.io/txtai/ https://neuml.github.io/txtai/ https://magicloops.dev/dashboard https://magicloops.dev/dashboard

jdross 2y ago

Yes, but the problem is that I don't want to be recorded without my consent by you at all times. And I don't want to have to negotiate you removing this device that is recording me every time we are near each other.

miki123211 2y ago
Do you mind if somebody takes notes of the conversation you're having with them? At what point do the notes become too detailed? An audio recording? A transcript? A summary of the transcript? Do you mind the fact that all modern smartphones technically record all calls? Digital audio always ends up in a RAM buffer somewhere, and due to how memory allocation works, there's no guarantee that all the buffers will be fully destroyed after the call is complete. How's an AI "recording" your conversation in memory, transcribing it and writing a summary of that transcript, different from a phone doing the recording to RAM, and a human brain doing the transcribing and writing?
- advisedwang 2y ago
  > Do you mind if somebody takes notes of the conversation you're having with them? It would certainly change the way most people will interact with them. > At what point do the notes become too detailed? It doesn't have to be a binary and can vary for different people and situations. > Do you mind the fact that all modern smartphones technically record all calls? You cannot retrieve the "recording" of a call, so this is not really meaningful in any relevant way. > How's an AI "recording" your conversation in memory, transcribing it and writing a summary of that transcript, different from a phone doing the recording to RAM, and a human brain doing the transcribing and writing? Because it is doing it all the time. "Quantity has a quality of its own"
- andrepd 2y ago
  What? Or course taking notes on a casual conversation is weird, let alone recording it. Of course "writing audio in the sound chip buffer" is not the same thing as "storing audio and data mining it", let along the same as "a brain listening to it". >A-ha but technically... No please don't, this is not engaging in good faith.
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samstave 2y ago

Actually: I helped a guy think through just this on reddit a while back and he came back and it worked -- I had stated it as a DEFCON badge idea that he came up with - but his valid reason was it was his job to report on a conference, and had agreed parties to recording. What he came up with was a hybrid of my recommendation which was an AI listener to audio to text transcribe to rag to search... Basically using whisper: >>"I recorded the talks on my phone, uploaded them to my PC and transcribed them with the Whisper plug-in for Audacity. Then fed the transcripts to Gemini and had it generate summaries" -- [the reddit thread was abou the ability for AI to specifically hone in on a specific voice - meaning that you could wander through a conference and ether listen for a specific voice and record on ly that - or all voices that are talking about a particular subject out of the crowd so you could follow actual comments and interest on a person or topic in real-ish time and log it all - hence the DEFCON badge level] -- So do all this on a RpiBadge with a pc-link of whatever sort... (You could have a Magic Loop upload an hours worth of audio compressed to a thing and have it capture that log of audio, transcribe it and build the personalization DB based on having it indexed by txtai python lib... and then be able to query all the audio youve recorded... You could pull in the 1FPS idea from another HNer and have your body-cam capture 1fps uploads and have a img-to-txt summary of the insitu and be able to say "show me all the frames where "red balloon" was in focus? ((This is actually what I want to do with a webcam - is have it txt summarize via txtAI a web stream and then be able to "Zoom Enhance" on anything throughout the day: "Show me garage cam an list all the times a human is decribed in frame - tell me what color shirt is described to all humans - show me the frames with a red shirt" https://neuml.github.io/txtai/ https://neuml.github.io/txtai/ https://magicloops.dev/dashboard https://magicloops.dev/dashboard