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RTO, means Return To Office, which means it's applying to people who started out working in the office. And by your definition, when jobs changed from the offi

by tux1968 2y ago

RTO, means Return To Office, which means it's applying to people who started out working in the office. And by your definition, when jobs changed from the office to WFH, it constituted constructive dismissal, since it was a significant change; but that is just silly.

Suppafly 2y ago
>RTO, means Return To Office, which means it's applying to people who started out working in the office. Not necessarily. The company itself is moving it's workforce from home back to the office, but lots of people were hired during the WFH phase of these companies operations, so RTO is a new situation for them. We're what, 4 years into WFH now? A lot of companies have probably turned over half their staff in that time. Even the older employees might be 'returning' to a completely different building than they originally were hired to work in, since many companies gave up their leases or sold their buildings during the height of WFH.
petsfed 2y ago
RTO is often applied to an organization, even if elements of it were never in an office. Anecdotally, I've heard of quite a few people who were hired as remote, then their org did and RTO, and the HR response amounted to "tough shit, move on your own dime, or find work elsewhere".
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  Happened to me and at least two executives. One had just built a house. Insane. The same people tried to tell me I could ignore it. I said, "Dude, both of you couldn't" and found work that works instead. Happily remote and not wasting another productive second on this.
bravetraveler 2y ago
Wrong. If only things were as honest as their labeling. Source: me. Hired remote, was unfortunate to be within fifty miles of an office and placed in a new bucket. They tried to change the deal, I found new work and a higher salary instead. I used to go on site to train people. I wasn't unreasonable, the business was. RTO proponents actually pushed me more remote.

Suppafly 2y ago

>RTO, means Return To Office, which means it's applying to people who started out working in the office. Not necessarily. The company itself is moving it's workforce from home back to the office, but lots of people were hired during the WFH phase of these companies operations, so RTO is a new situation for them. We're what, 4 years into WFH now? A lot of companies have probably turned over half their staff in that time. Even the older employees might be 'returning' to a completely different building than they originally were hired to work in, since many companies gave up their leases or sold their buildings during the height of WFH.

petsfed 2y ago

RTO is often applied to an organization, even if elements of it were never in an office. Anecdotally, I've heard of quite a few people who were hired as remote, then their org did and RTO, and the HR response amounted to "tough shit, move on your own dime, or find work elsewhere".

bravetraveler 2y ago
Happened to me and at least two executives. One had just built a house. Insane. The same people tried to tell me I could ignore it. I said, "Dude, both of you couldn't" and found work that works instead. Happily remote and not wasting another productive second on this.

bravetraveler 2y ago

Wrong. If only things were as honest as their labeling. Source: me. Hired remote, was unfortunate to be within fifty miles of an office and placed in a new bucket. They tried to change the deal, I found new work and a higher salary instead. I used to go on site to train people. I wasn't unreasonable, the business was. RTO proponents actually pushed me more remote.