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> They monitor the world for things they don't like The police are not inherently justified. They receive their power from We the People and have no business d
by soulofmischief 2y ago
> They monitor the world for things they don't like
The police are not inherently justified. They receive their power from We the People and have no business deciding what they "do" and "don't" like. That is our legislators' jobs. The police do not get to arbitrarily decide threats outside of specifically mandated enforcement policy, and they do not get free reign to surveil and act on such information.
As someone with reasonable OSINT experience, I recognize that eventually tracking data like this will be part of a routine, automatic dragnet. However, that does not mean we cannot police the police, that doesn't mean police get to actively build cases using this information, or even consider the information at all while making decisions about who to target.
> requirement that the police need the power to investigate things they do not like
Who required this? I don't remember signing off on anything of the sort, and I do not recognize the authority of any State organization or public servant which fails to follow the rules that We the People have set forth.
> making a list of people isn't threatening enough or easy enough to detect
I grew up in a very small town. I was on such a list, purely by association, and it led to me being stalked by a police officer who ultimately planted cannabis on me at the scene of an accident, and lied in court. I tried fighting it, but the judge and prosecutor were part of the conspiracy, going as far as to switch my public defender to someone they controlled. They also denied my right to a jury, and my defender denied my right for a motion to quash or an appeal due to mistrial, saying, "the judge is my boss and I'm not making my life difficult."
I was convicted, on my first criminal offense, to 6 months in jail. Would have been longer but that was the maximum for a first cannabis offense in my state. I ended up getting denied jobs and it exacerbated my homelessness.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, because you're lucky enough that the policies you're advocating for have not specifically impacted you. You do not understand the depth of corruption that runs through our system, and how police surveillance and "lists" are just the tip of the State oppression iceberg. Not everyone is lucky enough to be a part of the protected class.
> You may not like some specific list.
That is correct. And as a citizen, it's my opinion that ultimately matters, not my local police chief's.