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As an owner of a System76 laptop I'm really conflicted on this stuff. On the one hand, I'm glad to see developer attention given to the Linux desktop. I use an

As an owner of a System76 laptop I'm really conflicted on this stuff. On the one hand, I'm glad to see developer attention given to the Linux desktop. I use and like GNOME well enough, but it's great to see competition and innovation. On the other... I guess when I buy System76, I'm effectively paying a markup to subsidize development of these side projects (I'll never use pop_OS for example). As somebody who's looking to just buy a computer, it makes justifying the expense of System76 a little more difficult. There are other Clevo rebadgers, after all.

ralfn 2y ago
There isn't a fixed number of Linux users. Your economic model for this is misguided. System76 seems to want to sell to engineers, researchers and data scientists. The competition here is a MacBook with the typical Unix ecosystem or a Windows laptop with WSL. So this allows them to take control of the total user experience and increase their customer base. Their target audience is people who want and need a Unix based environment, are power users, but don't want to play around too much. So this investment is intended to sell more laptops. I think they have a fair shot at making this pay for itself and they have a small but reasonable opportunity to grow exponentially and become a player of a seriously different size. I would assume people on HN could appreciate the ambition.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
  Framework, Lenovo, Dell all offer linux laptops now. I like what they are doing though. To be fair, I really love the concept of tge Framework though. I recently bought a secpnd nvme ssd for my gaming pc and put Kubuntu on it, I'm not sure I want to go back to a laptop. It's insanely fast.
tapoxi 2y ago
Framework is a good option in the Linux laptop space, aside from the awkward aspect ratio on the 14.
- ziml77 2y ago
  Awkward? Nah. My Surface Book had a 3:2 aspect ratio and it felt just right for that screen size (for larger screens I do think 16:10 is better)
- darthrupert 2y ago
  Taste is taste, but personally the aspect ratio was in the top #3 reasons why I got a Framework.

ralfn 2y ago

There isn't a fixed number of Linux users. Your economic model for this is misguided. System76 seems to want to sell to engineers, researchers and data scientists. The competition here is a MacBook with the typical Unix ecosystem or a Windows laptop with WSL. So this allows them to take control of the total user experience and increase their customer base. Their target audience is people who want and need a Unix based environment, are power users, but don't want to play around too much. So this investment is intended to sell more laptops. I think they have a fair shot at making this pay for itself and they have a small but reasonable opportunity to grow exponentially and become a player of a seriously different size. I would assume people on HN could appreciate the ambition.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
Framework, Lenovo, Dell all offer linux laptops now. I like what they are doing though. To be fair, I really love the concept of tge Framework though. I recently bought a secpnd nvme ssd for my gaming pc and put Kubuntu on it, I'm not sure I want to go back to a laptop. It's insanely fast.

tapoxi 2y ago

Framework is a good option in the Linux laptop space, aside from the awkward aspect ratio on the 14.

ziml77 2y ago
Awkward? Nah. My Surface Book had a 3:2 aspect ratio and it felt just right for that screen size (for larger screens I do think 16:10 is better)
darthrupert 2y ago
Taste is taste, but personally the aspect ratio was in the top #3 reasons why I got a Framework.