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I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional br

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

sccxy 2y ago
Edge is stable and has vertical tabs and split view support.
- warkdarrior 2y ago
  Dude, I cannot use a Microsoft product even if it has the functionality I prefer.
  - Scharkenberg 2y ago
    Well, that's your problem, dude. :)
ss48 2y ago
You could check out Vivaldi. The split view is pretty robust. The Vertical tabs can be on left or right, and allow one level of tab grouping.
- osbulbul 2y ago
  I think I only didn't try Vivaldi :) thanks, I will definitely look
- dustincoates 2y ago
  I really, really want to like Vivaldi, but it's just so slow for me on Windows. It has a similar problem on Linux, though a restart a few times a day solves it.
  - eviks 2y ago
    Yeah, performance is its biggest downside. Is it slow with a fresh profile? It can become suprisingly slow as session files grow, but cleaning it can revert some of that
    - ss48 2y ago
      Yeah. I found out that a Tabs > Memory Saver setting was disabled. Once I enabled that, the performance improved somewhat.
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twobitshifter 2y ago
Edge even has vertical tabs now. There are always add-ons, but I agree this should he a first class feature in all browsers. The annoying thing about the vertical tabs in Edge is that Microsoft eliminated the vertical taskbar option in Windows 11. One step forward and two steps back.
- wasteduniverse 2y ago
  Being forced to use Edge on my work laptop is how I found out about vertical tabs, they're so much easier to use for me. Why is having a vertical option for the taskbar not on Win11? That sounds like one of the easiest features to port over.
pantulis 2y ago
Most browsers except Chrome have some sort of vertical tabs support. - Safari (Mac) has a vertical tabs, but a very confusing UI, mixing Profiles, Windows and Tab Groups (only 1 level). - Edge has Workspaces and Vertical Tabs, along with Groups (only 1 level). - Chrome does not have vertical tabs and has 1 level groups - Vivaldi has vertical tabs and groups, not sure how many levels of grouping. - Firefox has Containers and Vertical Tabs (today), but for best results you still need something like Tab Stash, Sideberry or TST. - Orion Browser (Mac) has the best UI imho and allows for grouping tabs at as many levels as you want, but you cannot have proper "folders", only nested tabs. - Arc gets everything right, in my opinion, but I do not specially care much for the candy UI.
- generalizations 2y ago
  I'm surprised that none of them support tree hierarchies (like tree style tabs / sideberry), which IMO is the reason to use 'vertical tabs' in the first place.
  - jwells89 2y ago
    I believe it’s likely due to usability issues on increasingly common small laptop screens. On a 12/13” screen for example hierarchal sidebars become a truncated mess after only 1-2 levels of nesting unless the sidebar is expanded and eating up valuable main content space. Personally even 1-level vertical tabs are valuable because labels don’t get truncated or hidden nearly as badly as they do with traditional tabs, plus vertical scrolling is more natural and effortless than horizontal is. Additionally, most screens these days have tons of width while height is at a premium, and vertical tabs takes advantage of that.
  - freediver 2y ago
    Orion browser does, all natively.
- osbulbul 2y ago
  Actually somehow Safari has fastest load times, it just feel faster than anything. But man, I think it has ugliest UI :( I want to use Safari inside arc UI
calvinmorrison 2y ago
> I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I wish UI toolkits just came fully loaded and let me spin views and panels and anything in any which way I liked.
FlamingMoe 2y ago
Brave has vertical tabs, and a helpful grouping feature. Highly recommend.
- psygn89 2y ago
  Workplace had me move from Brave to Chrome and I was surprised that Chrome didn't have this feature. Brave's implementation felt like it was already a native part of Chromium, I guess they took existing parts and re-oriented it as I was surprised to learn there wasn't some experimental flag to enable it in Chrome either.
dustincoates 2y ago
> And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. I really, really don't understand the hype around Arc. I tried it for a while and just wasn't at all impressed. I've heard, though, that a lot of people praise how it help them deal with hundreds of tabs, and I don't keep my tabs open, so maybe I'm the wrong audience? (This is ignoring the fact that I tried it again a month ago and it wouldn't load a single page. I emailed their help and never heard from them, so I guess that's my last try for a while.)
- osbulbul 2y ago
  I heard similar things from different people, so looks like it's not everyones taste. But you are right about arc's help is basically not working anymore.
heraldgeezer 2y ago
??? Edge, Brave, Vivaldi have native vertical tabs built in. Firefox now too. Opera Presto was first way before them all. Why are you and another comment mention some no-name flashy browser?

sccxy 2y ago

Edge is stable and has vertical tabs and split view support.

warkdarrior 2y ago
Dude, I cannot use a Microsoft product even if it has the functionality I prefer.
- Scharkenberg 2y ago
  Well, that's your problem, dude. :)

ss48 2y ago

You could check out Vivaldi. The split view is pretty robust. The Vertical tabs can be on left or right, and allow one level of tab grouping.

osbulbul 2y ago
I think I only didn't try Vivaldi :) thanks, I will definitely look
dustincoates 2y ago
I really, really want to like Vivaldi, but it's just so slow for me on Windows. It has a similar problem on Linux, though a restart a few times a day solves it.
- eviks 2y ago
  Yeah, performance is its biggest downside. Is it slow with a fresh profile? It can become suprisingly slow as session files grow, but cleaning it can revert some of that
  - ss48 2y ago
    Yeah. I found out that a Tabs > Memory Saver setting was disabled. Once I enabled that, the performance improved somewhat.

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twobitshifter 2y ago

Edge even has vertical tabs now. There are always add-ons, but I agree this should he a first class feature in all browsers. The annoying thing about the vertical tabs in Edge is that Microsoft eliminated the vertical taskbar option in Windows 11. One step forward and two steps back.

wasteduniverse 2y ago
Being forced to use Edge on my work laptop is how I found out about vertical tabs, they're so much easier to use for me. Why is having a vertical option for the taskbar not on Win11? That sounds like one of the easiest features to port over.

pantulis 2y ago

Most browsers except Chrome have some sort of vertical tabs support. - Safari (Mac) has a vertical tabs, but a very confusing UI, mixing Profiles, Windows and Tab Groups (only 1 level). - Edge has Workspaces and Vertical Tabs, along with Groups (only 1 level). - Chrome does not have vertical tabs and has 1 level groups - Vivaldi has vertical tabs and groups, not sure how many levels of grouping. - Firefox has Containers and Vertical Tabs (today), but for best results you still need something like Tab Stash, Sideberry or TST. - Orion Browser (Mac) has the best UI imho and allows for grouping tabs at as many levels as you want, but you cannot have proper "folders", only nested tabs. - Arc gets everything right, in my opinion, but I do not specially care much for the candy UI.

generalizations 2y ago
I'm surprised that none of them support tree hierarchies (like tree style tabs / sideberry), which IMO is the reason to use 'vertical tabs' in the first place.
- jwells89 2y ago
  I believe it’s likely due to usability issues on increasingly common small laptop screens. On a 12/13” screen for example hierarchal sidebars become a truncated mess after only 1-2 levels of nesting unless the sidebar is expanded and eating up valuable main content space. Personally even 1-level vertical tabs are valuable because labels don’t get truncated or hidden nearly as badly as they do with traditional tabs, plus vertical scrolling is more natural and effortless than horizontal is. Additionally, most screens these days have tons of width while height is at a premium, and vertical tabs takes advantage of that.
- freediver 2y ago
  Orion browser does, all natively.
osbulbul 2y ago
Actually somehow Safari has fastest load times, it just feel faster than anything. But man, I think it has ugliest UI :( I want to use Safari inside arc UI

calvinmorrison 2y ago

> I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I wish UI toolkits just came fully loaded and let me spin views and panels and anything in any which way I liked.

FlamingMoe 2y ago

Brave has vertical tabs, and a helpful grouping feature. Highly recommend.

psygn89 2y ago
Workplace had me move from Brave to Chrome and I was surprised that Chrome didn't have this feature. Brave's implementation felt like it was already a native part of Chromium, I guess they took existing parts and re-oriented it as I was surprised to learn there wasn't some experimental flag to enable it in Chrome either.

dustincoates 2y ago

> And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. I really, really don't understand the hype around Arc. I tried it for a while and just wasn't at all impressed. I've heard, though, that a lot of people praise how it help them deal with hundreds of tabs, and I don't keep my tabs open, so maybe I'm the wrong audience? (This is ignoring the fact that I tried it again a month ago and it wouldn't load a single page. I emailed their help and never heard from them, so I guess that's my last try for a while.)

osbulbul 2y ago
I heard similar things from different people, so looks like it's not everyones taste. But you are right about arc's help is basically not working anymore.

heraldgeezer 2y ago

??? Edge, Brave, Vivaldi have native vertical tabs built in. Firefox now too. Opera Presto was first way before them all. Why are you and another comment mention some no-name flashy browser?