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https://sentry.io/about/press-releases/sentry-raises-90-million-in-series-e-funding-to-expand-and-drive-adoption-of-developer-first-application-monitoring/ http

by paxys 2y ago

https://sentry.io/about/press-releases/sentry-raises-90-million-in-series-e-funding-to-expand-and-drive-adoption-of-developer-first-application-monitoring/ https://sentry.io/about/press-releases/sentry-raises-90-mill... Sentry raised $90 million in a series E round in May 2022, and their total funding is sitting at $217 million. No cloud provider even offers a hosted version of Sentry, so it's not like that's an issue for their business. Spinning up a VM and deploying your own version is incredibly straightforward. Which is exactly why they now need to switch licenses and put newer features behind more restrictive terms so users are forced to pay.

ezekg 2y ago
> No cloud provider even offers a hosted version of Sentry, so it's not like that's an issue for their business. https://cra.mr/the-busl-factor https://cra.mr/the-busl-factor
bentlegen 2y ago
> Which is exactly why they now need to switch licenses and put newer features behind more restrictive terms so users are forced to pay Sentry switched to BUSL in 2019, almost 5 years ago.[1] Most of the aforementioned fundraising occurred after the license change (e.g. the $90MM round you mention from 2022, and another $60MM round in 2021). The "restrictive terms" - which again, were introduced in 2019 - are that you can use the software but not use the code to compete against the software's authors. For 99.99% of users, this has been a non-issue, because most people have no interest in doing so. [1] https://blog.sentry.io/relicensing-sentry/ https://blog.sentry.io/relicensing-sentry/
whit537 2y ago
In addition to our 100,000 SaaS customers, we also have 10,000+ (unmonetized) self-hosted users: https://openpath.chadwhitacre.com/2024/widespread-use-of-a-fair-source-product/ https://openpath.chadwhitacre.com/2024/widespread-use-of-a-f... Fair Source is working quite well for us. You should try it. :^)
- fontana49 2y ago
  I like your product, but I tried self-hosting it -- twice over maybe four years -- and both times it just fell apart and destroyed itself in about two months after being set up. Proper configuration and regular upgrades as recommended by documentation, afaict. I'm ready to admit that I'm a complete idiot, but I have never had anything like that with any other product. I have my own theories for why it keeps happening, but not having any proof will keep them to myself...
  - whit537 2y ago
    Oof, sorry to hear it. File a ticket if you have specific things come up: https://github.com/getsentry/self-hosted/issues/new https://github.com/getsentry/self-hosted/issues/new

by paxys 2y ago

ezekg 2y ago

> No cloud provider even offers a hosted version of Sentry, so it's not like that's an issue for their business. https://cra.mr/the-busl-factor https://cra.mr/the-busl-factor

bentlegen 2y ago

> Which is exactly why they now need to switch licenses and put newer features behind more restrictive terms so users are forced to pay Sentry switched to BUSL in 2019, almost 5 years ago.[1] Most of the aforementioned fundraising occurred after the license change (e.g. the $90MM round you mention from 2022, and another $60MM round in 2021). The "restrictive terms" - which again, were introduced in 2019 - are that you can use the software but not use the code to compete against the software's authors. For 99.99% of users, this has been a non-issue, because most people have no interest in doing so. [1] https://blog.sentry.io/relicensing-sentry/ https://blog.sentry.io/relicensing-sentry/

whit537 2y ago

In addition to our 100,000 SaaS customers, we also have 10,000+ (unmonetized) self-hosted users: https://openpath.chadwhitacre.com/2024/widespread-use-of-a-fair-source-product/ https://openpath.chadwhitacre.com/2024/widespread-use-of-a-f... Fair Source is working quite well for us. You should try it. :^)

fontana49 2y ago
I like your product, but I tried self-hosting it -- twice over maybe four years -- and both times it just fell apart and destroyed itself in about two months after being set up. Proper configuration and regular upgrades as recommended by documentation, afaict. I'm ready to admit that I'm a complete idiot, but I have never had anything like that with any other product. I have my own theories for why it keeps happening, but not having any proof will keep them to myself...
- whit537 2y ago
  Oof, sorry to hear it. File a ticket if you have specific things come up: https://github.com/getsentry/self-hosted/issues/new https://github.com/getsentry/self-hosted/issues/new