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Isn't the storage kinda expensive? It's $15 per 10 GiB, which is ~10x more expensive than AWS SSD storage and ~100x more than bulk storage with an S3-like servi

by ok_dad 2y ago

Isn't the storage kinda expensive? It's $15 per 10 GiB, which is ~10x more expensive than AWS SSD storage and ~100x more than bulk storage with an S3-like service. It's $1500 per TiB, which is a lot of money. I guess it might not be designed for time series data like I am used to collecting, which requires thinking on the TiB scale at the very least. I do appreciate it's Apache 2.0 licensed, so you can run it yourself. I can't complain too much about pricing for what looks to be my dream database that I have always wanted with branching and separated storage and compute.

adwf 2y ago
Yeah that storage pricing is a killer. Given Aurora is $0.1/GB, I just wouldn't even consider this.
- tristan957 2y ago
  Neon is a lot more than just storage. It's branching, autoscaling, (cheap) read replicas, serverless computing, etc. If you only care about storage pricing, Neon is not the service for you. As you've said, storage pricing is cheaper elsewhere.
  - adwf 2y ago
    Sure, but I've got serverless computing with Aurora v2. I've got upto 15 read replicas, blue/green deployments, upto 128 cores per replica at a cheaper price... I'm just not really thinking that a bit of branching will make up for a 10x or more increase in cost. Those increased storage costs make the decoupled compute and the associated auto-scaling benefits almost irrelevant as far as the overall cost picture goes.
    - tristan957 2y ago
      We have former Aurora users come to Neon who tell us they saved money by switching. If someone like yourself were to migrate, they definitely would be an enterprise sale, which has different pricing than what is available in our current tiers.
- re-thc 2y ago
  What counts as storage? There’s a huge difference between storage vs database size as there’s a huge overhead otherwise. RDS and Aurora usage just keeps growing even if you don’t have much real data.
brigadier132 2y ago
To be fair to neon: you get free point in time recovery, HA, branching, automatic scaling without downtime, and read replicas (that also automatically scale).
- ok_dad 2y ago
  Yea, it's not really a product for the type of massive bulk storage I'm thinking about. This seems more like the database you use for everything that isn't the bulk storage. Things that get read/written to often enough to care about versioning and HA and all those other things. Time series bulk data wouldn't be a good application for their managed service since it's usually "write once, read sometimes, store cheap".
re-thc 2y ago
> Isn't the storage kinda expensive? Depends on the actual performance. Normal EBS is dead slow but you can pay for the IoPs.

by ok_dad 2y ago

adwf 2y ago

Yeah that storage pricing is a killer. Given Aurora is $0.1/GB, I just wouldn't even consider this.

tristan957 2y ago
Neon is a lot more than just storage. It's branching, autoscaling, (cheap) read replicas, serverless computing, etc. If you only care about storage pricing, Neon is not the service for you. As you've said, storage pricing is cheaper elsewhere.
- adwf 2y ago
  Sure, but I've got serverless computing with Aurora v2. I've got upto 15 read replicas, blue/green deployments, upto 128 cores per replica at a cheaper price... I'm just not really thinking that a bit of branching will make up for a 10x or more increase in cost. Those increased storage costs make the decoupled compute and the associated auto-scaling benefits almost irrelevant as far as the overall cost picture goes.
  - tristan957 2y ago
    We have former Aurora users come to Neon who tell us they saved money by switching. If someone like yourself were to migrate, they definitely would be an enterprise sale, which has different pricing than what is available in our current tiers.
re-thc 2y ago
What counts as storage? There’s a huge difference between storage vs database size as there’s a huge overhead otherwise. RDS and Aurora usage just keeps growing even if you don’t have much real data.

brigadier132 2y ago

To be fair to neon: you get free point in time recovery, HA, branching, automatic scaling without downtime, and read replicas (that also automatically scale).

ok_dad 2y ago
Yea, it's not really a product for the type of massive bulk storage I'm thinking about. This seems more like the database you use for everything that isn't the bulk storage. Things that get read/written to often enough to care about versioning and HA and all those other things. Time series bulk data wouldn't be a good application for their managed service since it's usually "write once, read sometimes, store cheap".

re-thc 2y ago

> Isn't the storage kinda expensive? Depends on the actual performance. Normal EBS is dead slow but you can pay for the IoPs.