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I don't think that will be the case, I think at first glance this is a failure of wearables but FitBit, Apple Watch, and others clearly prove that wearables are

I don't think that will be the case, I think at first glance this is a failure of wearables but FitBit, Apple Watch, and others clearly prove that wearables are a desirable market. With Samsung doing their ring, that is only going to help (unless it is just the same vaporware, I have not seriously looked at it yet). Taking barely a closer look at this and Rabbit (and likely "Friend" next) the answer is obvious. It isn't wearables that is the problem, it's shoving AI into things it doesn't need to be and then it barely working to do what it claims to do in the first place. It just so happens that for some reason many of these products are wearables, but thankfully Rabit is there to show what the actual bad investment is.

Bluestein 2y ago
> it's shoving AI into things it doesn't need to be and then it barely working to do what it claims to do in the first place. Premature comoditization.-
- nerdjon 2y ago
  I mean when you can just make some quick hardware and then spend a few hours (if that) setting up your queries to OpenAI and tweaking the system prompt for a boatload of money apparently who isnt going to do that... ... That is basically what is happening here. Just different versions of hardware where the actual software side is the smallest part of the equation. It is incredibly ironic that we went from an over engineered App into Hardware and a Pin solving a problem that didn't exist, to probably the laziest implementation with "Friend".
  - Bluestein 2y ago
    > the laziest implementation with "Friend". Given the (current) weaknesses in the AI underlying these gadgets, I feel we will look back to these widgets much in the same way the "crazy flying machines" of the early days of aviation look ridiculous now. They were ridiculous.- (But perhaps a necessary part of the technology's evolution ...)
    - disqard 2y ago
      Good call! Reading "The Wright Brothers" by David McCullough did give me a deep appreciation for how their slow, steady, incremental progress was thoroughly grounded and authentic. It ended up beating all the deep-pocketed rivals, most of whom were aiming to capitalize on the gestalt of the moment. History sure does rhyme! P.S. I wonder who is (or what applications are) today on that slow, steady path of leveraging AI using carefully thought-out + meaningful approaches? Time is the best filter :)
      - Bluestein 2y ago
        > wonder who is (or what applications are) today on that slow, steady path I am afraid it is a "gold rush" situation. Also, maybe (maybe) if VC and Wall Street love slows down a bit , we might see more careful approaches.- Under these circumstances I am afraid the slower, careful approach does not get much used.- Maybe - maybe - Anthropic could be that company. But the environment is not conducive. And, the major players - it appears - lack leadership to approach the development in this incremental, wise, and secure way.-

Bluestein 2y ago

> it's shoving AI into things it doesn't need to be and then it barely working to do what it claims to do in the first place. Premature comoditization.-

nerdjon 2y ago
I mean when you can just make some quick hardware and then spend a few hours (if that) setting up your queries to OpenAI and tweaking the system prompt for a boatload of money apparently who isnt going to do that... ... That is basically what is happening here. Just different versions of hardware where the actual software side is the smallest part of the equation. It is incredibly ironic that we went from an over engineered App into Hardware and a Pin solving a problem that didn't exist, to probably the laziest implementation with "Friend".
- Bluestein 2y ago
  > the laziest implementation with "Friend". Given the (current) weaknesses in the AI underlying these gadgets, I feel we will look back to these widgets much in the same way the "crazy flying machines" of the early days of aviation look ridiculous now. They were ridiculous.- (But perhaps a necessary part of the technology's evolution ...)
  - disqard 2y ago
    Good call! Reading "The Wright Brothers" by David McCullough did give me a deep appreciation for how their slow, steady, incremental progress was thoroughly grounded and authentic. It ended up beating all the deep-pocketed rivals, most of whom were aiming to capitalize on the gestalt of the moment. History sure does rhyme! P.S. I wonder who is (or what applications are) today on that slow, steady path of leveraging AI using carefully thought-out + meaningful approaches? Time is the best filter :)
    - Bluestein 2y ago
      > wonder who is (or what applications are) today on that slow, steady path I am afraid it is a "gold rush" situation. Also, maybe (maybe) if VC and Wall Street love slows down a bit , we might see more careful approaches.- Under these circumstances I am afraid the slower, careful approach does not get much used.- Maybe - maybe - Anthropic could be that company. But the environment is not conducive. And, the major players - it appears - lack leadership to approach the development in this incremental, wise, and secure way.-